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lol because to expect one to up their "threshold" ten-fold or by 45 minutes is ludicrous unless we are talking of a child or a beginner?the sceptic said:
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lol because it's not possible to do 500 watts for 50 minutes without doping. But obviously this botfanboy journo ignores that issue.
Nick C. said:
lol because it's not possible to do 500 watts for 50 minutes without doping. But obviously this botfanboy journo ignores that issue.
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The nature of the course would be irrelevant to anyone who could sustain 500W for 50 minutes given that they'd be so far ahead of the rest of the field. Matt Slater must live in some sort of parallel universe where 500W for 50 minutes is almost commonplace amongst top GC riders.
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Bradley Wiggins. Yes, certainly, once a clean cyclist. But somewhere along the line, the realization, like many others, that his dreams of winning the most prestigious race of all "WOULD NEVER" become a reality unless he succumbed to temptation and turned to the "DARK SIDE". Any individual who knows the brutal realities of the physical and psychological enormities of winning a three week grand tour would not disagree. Many on this forum would agree that somewhere along the road, possibly 2009 and without question during 2012, banned artificial pharmaceutical products were running through his vein's as he put his demon's to rest once and for all and donned the maillot jaune and raised his arms triumphantly on the Champs-Élysées and paralleled the illusion of the Armstrong "MIRACLE".
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Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters · 4m4 minutes ago
@mattslaterbbc ..... ummmm... Matt.... ive never even met Dr. Ferrari, much less to have been coached by him.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters · 4m4 minutes ago
@mattslaterbbc ..... ummmm... Matt.... ive never even met Dr. Ferrari, much less to have been coached by him.
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Matt Slater all over the place.
his head so deep up Sky's rear end he can't see straight no more.
no surprises there.
10 chars
Matt Slater all over the place.
his head so deep up Sky's rear end he can't see straight no more.
no surprises there.
The Hitch said:
10 chars
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I looked at the bottom of that article, they are doing 2 a week last couple of weeks. Or more. Seriously fawning. Sickening. 200+ guys in the peloton and Wiggo is the center of attention. New owners sure are changing things up...
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It is possible for a doctor to 'coach' a rider without meeting them. It is all based on testing that can be done various places then that information given to the 'doctor' to 'advise' a 'training plan'. The doctors hardly need to see how someone pedals a bike now do they? So JV could have been 'coached' by Ferrari without him even knowing as the team docs would be following Ferrari's 'training plans'
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Wiggins has certainly come along way ever since Paul Kimmage was wondering whether he would hold out to Paris in 2006, and now he has won the race outright. It's certainly not a "What a difference a few years make". And without further ado ladies and gentlemen, its amazing what the drugs done for him. Notice how Paul Kimmages original concern has not left him in a state of shock and awe. Gee, I wonder why that is.
And without further ado ladies and gentlemen, its amazing what the drugs done for him. Notice how Paul Kimmages original concern has not left him in a state of shock and awe. Gee, I wonder why that is. 
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You have a (mildly said) funny "common sense"... So per your definition, public figures can be pissed on, literally, but forum members not? Who are you to heave yourself and other forum members above others?
In no way do I trust, or like Wiggings... but now I fully understand why he called some fans wankers. In hindsight his rants seem absolutely plausible...
red_flanders said:
You have a (mildly said) funny "common sense"... So per your definition, public figures can be pissed on, literally, but forum members not? Who are you to heave yourself and other forum members above others?
In no way do I trust, or like Wiggings... but now I fully understand why he called some fans wankers. In hindsight his rants seem absolutely plausible...
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Didn't Greg Lemond ride the Paris-Roubaix once in the eighties and finish in the top five either on a Saturday or Sunday, and was so physically spent up until the following Wednesday that his wife would not allow him to hold their new born because he was unable to do so. I recall reading that somewhere. Don't have a link for it unfortunately. But that is a reminder of the brutal nature that this race can have on the body. I recall Magnus Bäckstedt saying on TV when asked by his fellow commentator "How long for these riders to recover from a one day classic "? His reply, approximately eleven days. Again a reminder of the brutal nature of one day classics. As for Wiggins even with a bit of help from a oxygen vector blood booster, I do not think that he will win this race today. As for thee amount I suppose that depends on a lot of factors. Then the recovery, that is also in the equation.
meat puppet said:
Didn't Greg Lemond ride the Paris-Roubaix once in the eighties and finish in the top five either on a Saturday or Sunday, and was so physically spent up until the following Wednesday that his wife would not allow him to hold their new born because he was unable to do so. I recall reading that somewhere. Don't have a link for it unfortunately. But that is a reminder of the brutal nature that this race can have on the body. I recall Magnus Bäckstedt saying on TV when asked by his fellow commentator "How long for these riders to recover from a one day classic "? His reply, approximately eleven days. Again a reminder of the brutal nature of one day classics. As for Wiggins even with a bit of help from a oxygen vector blood booster, I do not think that he will win this race today. As for thee amount I suppose that depends on a lot of factors. Then the recovery, that is also in the equation.
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This always reminds me of the 2007 Tour when Moreni was caught, Wiggins was pissed and said he'd have to do some serious thinking and make a big decision. Said he could call it quits. For 8 years I've been sure the decision was 'Retire or start doping'.
He completely changed his tune on doping and dopers from that day on. From criticizing to defending.
You hear similar stuff from a lot of riders. On the other hand, Bartoli only rode Roubaix once, said he'd heard that a lot as well and was surprised that he felt fine the next day.
MagnificentMerckx said:The Hitch said:
Top 100, good one. That's a more realistic figure.
This always reminds me of the 2007 Tour when Moreni was caught, Wiggins was pissed and said he'd have to do some serious thinking and make a big decision. Said he could call it quits. For 8 years I've been sure the decision was 'Retire or start doping'.
He completely changed his tune on doping and dopers from that day on. From criticizing to defending.
MagnificentMerckx said:
You hear similar stuff from a lot of riders. On the other hand, Bartoli only rode Roubaix once, said he'd heard that a lot as well and was surprised that he felt fine the next day.
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Yes, good point. Totally agree with you.
GuyIncognito said:MagnificentMerckx said:The Hitch said:
Top 100, good one. That's a more realistic figure.
This always reminds me of the 2007 Tour when Moreni was caught, Wiggins was pissed and said he'd have to do some serious thinking and make a big decision. Said he could call it quits. For 8 years I've been sure the decision was 'Retire or start doping'.
He completely changed his tune on doping and dopers from that day on. From criticizing to defending
Yes, good point. Totally agree with you.
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Actually he said all fans who accused him of doping were wankers.
He also said those who accused lance of doping were losers jealous of his success.
Good to know its ok by foxxy's standards to do that. Only those with a deranged obsession over Horner doping for 1 race are legitimate anti doping warriors. If you call others out however you are wankers
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Actually he said all fans who accused him of doping were wankers.
He also said those who accused lance of doping were losers jealous of his success.
Good to know its ok by foxxy's standards to do that. Only those with a deranged obsession over Horner doping for 1 race are legitimate anti doping warriors. If you call others out however you are wankers
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This is the correct answer. One hillarious example is Vino. On that day in 2007 wiggins went hard after Vino saying he didn't want to see him in the sport, Vino ruined the sport, Wiggins always knew Vino was doping etc.
A few years later, once he had his prestige, his million dollar salary, his Sky kit, his gt leadership position, his status with the press, he had another rant about Vino. This time it was to chastise all those losers who were sceptical of Alexander Vinokourov winning Giro del Trentino and Liege Bastogne Liege in 1 week.
There was, now, no proof Vino was doping and it was wrong to suggest he was. He was, now, a top bloke, and everyone should leave him alone.
It was a similar situation with Basso. In his speech in 2007 wiggins complained about brunyeel signing basso making a mockery of anti doping.
A few years later, Basso is a close friend of wiggos who arrange wigos participation in the Giro.
It really is clear as day what happened. Some people are trying so hard to keep their eyes shut, its funny.
GuyIncognito said:MagnificentMerckx said:The Hitch said:
Top 100, good one. That's a more realistic figure.
This always reminds me of the 2007 Tour when Moreni was caught, Wiggins was pissed and said he'd have to do some serious thinking and make a big decision. Said he could call it quits. For 8 years I've been sure the decision was 'Retire or start doping'.
He completely changed his tune on doping and dopers from that day on. From criticizing to defending.
This is the correct answer. One hillarious example is Vino. On that day in 2007 wiggins went hard after Vino saying he didn't want to see him in the sport, Vino ruined the sport, Wiggins always knew Vino was doping etc.
A few years later, once he had his prestige, his million dollar salary, his Sky kit, his gt leadership position, his status with the press, he had another rant about Vino. This time it was to chastise all those losers who were sceptical of Alexander Vinokourov winning Giro del Trentino and Liege Bastogne Liege in 1 week.
There was, now, no proof Vino was doping and it was wrong to suggest he was. He was, now, a top bloke, and everyone should leave him alone.
It was a similar situation with Basso. In his speech in 2007 wiggins complained about brunyeel signing basso making a mockery of anti doping.
A few years later, Basso is a close friend of wiggos who arrange wigos participation in the Giro.
It really is clear as day what happened. Some people are trying so hard to keep their eyes shut, its funny.
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