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BroDeal said:
Sounds like a man who is embarrassed by what he did to win after all those years of supposedly being against doping.

Yeah but since Cookson got elected

Wigans said:
"......You know what? I've won the Tour de France and now I feel ready to talk about it."

:rolleyes:
 
Jul 17, 2012
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the sceptic said:
Wait, people thought Wiggins would win the tour for 4 years before he did so?

Time to dig up some old interviews.. This one is gold.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/riders/2008/interviews/?id=brad_wiggins_dec08

If Wiggo started his weight loss after Beijing then he would have been pretty light by early 2009 and therefore likely to be going pretty well uphill in training. Thus from early 2009 to July 2012, there would have been the thought that winning the Tour was a possibility, even if it was just him and Mrs Wiggo who shared it. That's 4 early season campaigns. Certainly, after the 2009 Tour, that was pretty much the only thing he ever got asked about. So nothing particularly contentious there, I think.

Re comments about only aspiring to win stages, one has to factor in the British media and sports fans here. They like nothing better than someone being ambitious and falling short so they can lay into them. Sky's 2010 campaign is a classic example of this.

Thus, it's wise to show a modest amount of ambition only, irrespective of what you might actually be aiming for. False modesty is much more easily forgiven than arrogance.
 
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gooner said:
Very interesting that Wiggo has the Commonwealth Games penciled in
as a potential start this season. I'm sure he hasn't forgot how the
Aussies b!tch slapped the home countries in Manchester in 2002
and how Mr. McGee embarrassed him in the pursuit the last time
the "Friendly Games" were in the UK.
I'm looking forward to the Glasgow Games as I have fond memories
of the Second City from the time I worked, played and partied
(not necessarily in that order) there in '71-'72.
 
Dec 13, 2012
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BroDeal said:
Sounds like a man who is embarrassed by what he did to win after all those years of supposedly being against doping.

Yeah, if he achieved it all in the right and proper way then what is there to be embarrassed or awkward about? To be honest I don't think anyone really thought even after 2009 Tour that he was a genuine Tour contender - most people thought it was a fluke that was unlikely to be repeated and that the next year he would be top 30, top 20 at best which actually happened to be right, 2011/12 he was WAY up on his 2009 level.
 
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Wallace and Gromit said:
If Wiggo started his weight loss after Beijing then he would have been pretty light by early 2009 and therefore likely to be going pretty well uphill in training. Thus from early 2009 to July 2012, there would have been the thought that winning the Tour was a possibility, even if it was just him and Mrs Wiggo who shared it. That's 4 early season campaigns. Certainly, after the 2009 Tour, that was pretty much the only thing he ever got asked about. So nothing particularly contentious there, I think.

Re comments about only aspiring to win stages, one has to factor in the British media and sports fans here. They like nothing better than someone being ambitious and falling short so they can lay into them. Sky's 2010 campaign is a classic example of this.

Thus, it's wise to show a modest amount of ambition only, irrespective of what you might actually be aiming for. False modesty is much more easily forgiven than arrogance.

Apart from the 2009 Tour and an odd stage here and there there was nothing to suggest that he could be a top level climber until the 2011 Dauphine.
 
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Some dumb comments here. Where's all this mind reading coming from. Some of you seem to be unable to resist a conspiracy. You have to start forcing narratives about how he must feel guilty. Because he didn't use the d word? Umm do you realize that if Wiggins ever does use the d word then that will automatically disprove your theory? And why would someone who unapologetically enforced omerta feel guilty about it ?


Sr you are totally dismissing his 09 tour performance to fit the story you have already set in your mind. 09 was one of the most doped tours ever. Contador broke the Vam record. For wiggins to beat dopers like kloeden, kreuziger, Nibali, frank schleck, all of whom had 50 times the experience in the mountains he did, had been fully prepared, hadn't raced the giro etc, on his first attempt, was insane, and no logical person could possibly conclude that was done clean.
 
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The Hitch said:
Some dumb comments here. Where's all this mind reading coming from. Some of you seem to be unable to resist a conspiracy. You have to start forcing narratives about how he must feel guilty. Because he didn't use the d word?
i just noticed that in that particular interview he seems uncomfortable using the d-word.
might mean something. might mean nothing. no conspiracy.

Umm do you realize that if Wiggins ever does use the d word then that will automatically disprove your theory?
has he ever used it in a spoken interview post-2008?
 
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God, this guy is so funny. Is the number 8 domestique now in Team Sky. Riding at the front for a kilometer, and gets dropped like a rock.

Looks like Wiggo is doing a Cobo. I understand trying to take little risk in the heyday of your carreer, it would be pretty silly after all to test positive now and lose everything. But it does go to show that this guy's results were almost exclusively the result of pharmacology. This guy isn't even a decent climber when riding clean.
 
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Lanark said:
God, this guy is so funny. Is the number 8 domestique now in Team Sky. Riding at the front for a kilometer, and gets dropped like a rock.

Looks like Wiggo is doing a Cobo. I understand trying to take little risk in the heyday of your carreer, it would be pretty silly after all to test positive now and lose everything. But it does go to show that this guy's results were almost exclusively the result of pharmacology. This guy isn't even a decent climber when riding clean.

could it not be that wiggo has been down the local and not training 100%

Mark L
 
Dec 13, 2012
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Lanark said:
God, this guy is so funny. Is the number 8 domestique now in Team Sky. Riding at the front for a kilometer, and gets dropped like a rock.

Looks like Wiggo is doing a Cobo. I understand trying to take little risk in the heyday of your carreer, it would be pretty silly after all to test positive now and lose everything. But it does go to show that this guy's results were almost exclusively the result of pharmacology. This guy isn't even a decent climber when riding clean.

His career pre becoming a GC rider, confirms this anyway.
 
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el oh el at the "I am gonna ride another multi stage race to get some form".

Good grief. And the comments of the short memory people under the article are cringeworthy.

What happened to, "train to race and race to win"?

Farcical.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
el oh el at the "I am gonna ride another multi stage race to get some form".

Good grief. And the comments of the short memory people under the article are cringeworthy.

What happened to, "train to race and race to win"?

Farcical.

Dude that was so 2012! Don't forget Wiggans is a 'mod' and therefore has his finger on the latest fashions and trends.
 
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BYOP88 said:
Dude that was so 2012! Don't forget Wiggans is a 'mod' and therefore has his finger on the latest fashions and trends.

Let's get this right. In 2012 speeds were lower; in 2013 clean rider will one day (tomorrow) match the best doped times. In 2012 riding at a steady pace is a sign of clean riding; in 2013 the clean Froome has a hitherto untapped ability to put it five minute bursts of speed. In 2012 and 2013 Sky's success was due to the magic of reverse periodization, which allows a season long peak; in 2014 that no longer works.
 

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Lanark said:
God, this guy is so funny. Is the number 8 domestique now in Team Sky. Riding at the front for a kilometer, and gets dropped like a rock.

I laughed.
I also laughed at Andy finishing 17 minutes down.
 
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The unasked question here is: why has Wiggins changed his cadence back to what it was when he sucked because as we all know he is awesome when he rides with a higher cadence.
 
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Ferminal said:
I take it it wasn't a Malhao 2012 leadout?

He did a decent turn on the front and then pulled off about 9km to go.

EBH, Kennaugh and Thomas were still there in the aftermath. Judging by Wiggins's recent comments, he is only looking to win a race like Cali and do his bit for Froome in the Tour before going all out for the worlds.

BTW, Thomas has looked good this week.
 
Sep 29, 2012
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I searched, but did not get any hits for this particular article from Wiggo on The Clinic.

The main points are:

1. Wiggo's dedication to the road for 2006 / 7
2. Wiggo's aspirations for success in races in London: to lead the Tour in 2007 after winning the London TdF prologue, and a gold medal in London at the Olympic games in 2012
3. Oh yeah, and Millar's comeback getting the Wiggo seal of approval

But he has since switched his attentions to road cycling, with victory in this year's prologue his aim for 2006.

However, he said: "To do that this year would be amazing but London's where I'm from and winning it there would be huge.

"The fact that London has won the bid to host the start of the Tour is almost too good to be true.

"It's quite a scary prospect to think that in my career I'm going to have the possibility of leading the Tour de France (in London, 2007) and winning Olympic gold (in 2012) in London."
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Wiggins is likely to face competition from some of cycling's biggest names, including fellow countryman David Millar, who will this summer return from his two-year drug ban.

And Wiggins insisted he would welcome back his former Olympic team-mate.

"He deserves his chance to come back," he said. "He's served his time and he's learned his lesson. He will have been out two years by the time he comes back - that's a long enough sentence.

"Come London in 2007, we will have two British people battling for the win. That's great for British cycling.

"To have someone from this country winning the prologue in London is amazing enough - to have a potential British one-two is massive."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/4644430.stm

Lofty aspirations indeed, Bradley. Lofty aspirations indeed.
 
Dec 13, 2012
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Dear Wiggo said:
I searched, but did not get any hits for this particular article from Wiggo on The Clinic.

The main points are:

1. Wiggo's dedication to the road for 2006 / 7
2. Wiggo's aspirations for success in races in London: to lead the Tour in 2007 after winning the London TdF prologue, and a gold medal in London at the Olympic games in 2012
3. Oh yeah, and Millar's comeback getting the Wiggo seal of approval



Lofty aspirations indeed, Bradley. Lofty aspirations indeed.

No mention of winning the Tour outright surpisingly. He welcomed Millar back but two weeks later he was outraged because one of his team mates was caught. In that article when he mentioned winning Olympic Gold I think he might track - not road TT.
 
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SundayRider said:
No mention of winning the Tour outright surpisingly. He welcomed Millar back but two weeks later he was outraged because one of his team mates was caught. In that article when he mentioned winning Olympic Gold I think he might track - not road TT.

Definitely meant track, which was the focus of his "what I used to do" aspect of the interview.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
I searched, but did not get any hits for this particular article from Wiggo on The Clinic.

The main points are:

1. Wiggo's dedication to the road for 2006 / 7
2. Wiggo's aspirations for success in races in London: to lead the Tour in 2007 after winning the London TdF prologue, and a gold medal in London at the Olympic games in 2012
3. Oh yeah, and Millar's comeback getting the Wiggo seal of approval



Lofty aspirations indeed, Bradley. Lofty aspirations indeed.

Out of interest was he clean or dirty when he came fourth in that prologue, against what looks at first glance as a pretty dirty top ten?
 
Dec 13, 2012
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RownhamHill said:
Out of interest was he clean or dirty when he came fourth in that prologue, against what looks at first glance as a pretty dirty top ten?

Depends what you class as clean doesn't it? Not hardcore like 2009 onwards.
 
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SundayRider said:
Depends what you class as clean doesn't it? Not hardcore like 2009 onwards.

I class clean as not doping. It's a pretty straight forward definition really, and I'm at a bit of loss to understand how you'd class it?

You're suggesting he was doping in 2007?
 
Dec 13, 2012
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RownhamHill said:
I class clean as not doping. It's a pretty straight forward definition really, and I'm at a bit of loss to understand how you'd class it?

You're suggesting he was doping in 2007?

I don't know, plenty of posters have suggested that they think he was though.