Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[Benotti69]

Wiggins has a chest infection at Tour De Suisse! Wonder has he got a load of TUEs for glucocorticosteroids..........

 

[DirtyWorks]

Any word on why Wiggins is going so poorly at the Tour de Suisse?? I would have thought a good result here would put a case for his inclusion at the tour, especially after the Tour of California.

Even the live feed commentary at the CN website had a pop at him.

The recent performances of Sky's leaders are a complete departure from 2012/13.

The decisions around Wiggo and the TdF are absolutely crazy too, so don't try to make sense of it all

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Read this elsewhere:

A coach, whom I won't name, worked with Sky during the fall of 2012 and predicted that Wiggins would have a terrible upcoming 2013 season due to overdoing things way too early -- he was right. He also stated that he thought Sky was not at all "cutting edge" in its training concepts/methods.

The prediction proved correct - Wiggo was crap in 2013. But I am very confident he followed a similar program in 2011/12 and managed to smack everyone for 6 for 6 straight months.

So why the drop off in form for 2013?

Interesting comment re: training @ Sky.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I also wonder, given Wiggins lacklustre performances, if he can renew his Sky or get a contract elsewhere?

I mean. If you were OGE's hiring division, you'd be asking for proof Wiggo could actually complete a GT before signing him up, surely?

 

[ralphbert]

There were on average 3 news reports / day in UK about Wiggins not being selected for 2014 Tour.

You'd think he'd go for a Swiss showing to prove a point, but uh no.

Spitting the dummy / sulking sounds about right, innit? Lazy, bone-idle, etc, etc.

Whatever happened to the gears and the further distance for the same power from 2012?

Exactly. Watching him ride you can see how many ****s he gives. Zero.

 

[The Hitch]

Reminds me of one of the bigger Wiggins fans I've seen on the internet (elsewhere) who is adamant that Andy schleck is an obvious doper because his performance fell off so much after his tour win.

Yet of course for brad is ok, because if you take the trouble to get to know him (read all the fawning positive pieces about him, disregard the bad ones as tabloid journalism) you can understand that he is just unmotivated is all.

Of course he never took the time to get to know Andy schleck. Not being British not waving the gb flag, no need. Smell test is enough. -worse now=doper.

But this is how these people think.

 

[sniper]

i was wondering why eufemiano fuentes (assuming it's the real eufemiano) has a foto of skinny wiggins on his twitter account.

edit: i see, he seems interested in very skinny riders (also fotos there of rasmussen and froome)

 

[JimmyFingers]

Reminds me of one of the bigger Wiggins fans I've seen on the internet (elsewhere) who is adamant that Andy schleck is an obvious doper because his performance fell off so much after his tour win.

Yet of course for brad is ok, because if you take the trouble to get to know him (read all the fawning positive pieces about him, disregard the bad ones as tabloid journalism) you can understand that he is just unmotivated is all.

Of course he never took the time to get to know Andy schleck. Not being British not waving the gb flag, no need. Smell test is enough. -worse now=doper.

But this is how these people think.

And also how you think

 

[JimmyFingers]

Disappointed that Wiggins hasn't used the Tour de Suisse to make a point, but it seems while Brailsford said the door was still open, I think Bradley knew it wasn't, so has switched his focus to the Commonwealth Games. He wasn't even the designated team leader for Sky, Henao is, so the team is riding for him not Wiggins. Supposedly he has a chest infection too, and of course crashed yesterday, but don't let any of this get in the way of the time-honoured clinic slagging off of Wiggins

 

[SundayRider]

i was wondering why eufemiano fuentes (assuming it's the real eufemiano) has a foto of skinny wiggins on his twitter account.

edit: i see, he seems interested in very skinny riders (also fotos there of rasmussen and froome)

It's a parody account.

 

[The Hitch]

Eurosport showing 2012 replays. Wiggins in a small group of 5 on the mountain, everyone else being dropped.

But he can't climb right? Being in the heads of state group at the Tour de France totally within expected limits for someone who couldn't finish top 100 on a mountain until he was 30

 

[MBotero]

Eurosport showing 2012 replays. Wiggins in a small group of 5 on the mountain, everyone else being dropped.

But he can't climb right? Being in the heads of state group at the Tour de France totally within expected limits for someone who couldn't finish top 100 on a mountain until he was 30

Well if you watch the replay of Wiggins performance on TDF 2009 in stage 20 Montelimar-Mount Ventoux you'll see that his future results are normal

 

[deeno1975]

Eurosport showing 2012 replays. Wiggins in a small group of 5 on the mountain, everyone else being dropped.

But he can't climb right? Being in the heads of state group at the Tour de France totally within expected limits for someone who couldn't finish top 100 on a mountain until he was 30

Not to mention the performance of Froome, looked like he was spent at 6 k's to go after pulling for 5+k's , took a breather for 500m and then went all alien (commentators were amazed, seems he again was underestimated).

Still believe if he persisted with his "attack" at 4 k's to go he may have denied Wiggins his Sir.

 

[Benotti69]

a great reminder about Wiggins...

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/tom-english-wiggins-soft-pedals-on-lance-armstrong-1-2741865

In the 2006 Tour de France, Wiggins rode his heart out and finished 124th, almost three and a half hours behind the winner, Floyd Landis. Then he heard the news that Landis had tested positive. “I felt physically sick when I heard the news,” he wrote in his autobiography. “My first reaction was purely selfish and related only to me. You b****** Landis,’ I thought. ‘You have completely ruined my own small achievement of getting around the Tour de France and being a small part of cycling history. You and guys like you are p***ing on my sport and my dreams. Why do guys like you keep cheating? How many of you are out there, taking the p*** and getting away with it? Sod you all. You are a bunch of cheating b******* and I hope one day they catch the lot of you and ban you all for life. You can keep doing it your way and I will keep doing it mine. You won’t ever change me, you sods. B******s to all of you. At least I can look at myself in the mirror.”

Bet all the mirrors are gone from Wiggins house.........

 

[Dear Wiggo]

So uh.

Wiggo rides the Comm games soon - with pretty much sweet FA track time. Clearly we'll have to see how he performs, but Sutto reckons he will be fine.

Just curious what the posters who went on and on about Wiggo needing to dedicate time to the track to perform, leaving his road palmares destitute have to say about this apparent contradiction?

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

So uh.

Wiggo rides the Comm games soon - with pretty much sweet FA track time. Clearly we'll have to see how he performs, but Sutto reckons he will be fine.

Just curious what the posters who went on and on about Wiggo needing to dedicate time to the track to perform, leaving his road palmares destitute have to say about this apparent contradiction?

Let's see how he goes first, shall we?

A 4:15 in the IP might raise a few questions, whereas a 4:25, whilst creditable probably wouldn't.

Is he riding the TP?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Let's see how he goes first, shall we?

A 4:15 in the IP might raise a few questions, whereas a 4:25, whilst creditable probably wouldn't.

Is he riding the TP?

TP yes, by the sounds.

Wiggins, who has been putting in some light practice on the track in recent weeks,

...

He joins Ed Clancy, Steven Burke, Andy Tennant and Jon Dibben in the line-up, where he will bid to add to the three silver medals he won in 1998 and 2002.

Shane Sutton said of Wiggins’ return: “I’m very happy to be able to welcome Sir Bradley back to the track team for the Commonwealth Games – his addition will be a real morale boost to the rest of the track squad.

“The decision of who will ride what event will be made nearer the time.”

Read more at http://roadcyclinguk.com/racing/tea...h-games-track-return.html#wegFZE4aKe1Wk40l.99

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

TP yes, by the sounds.

I read that as Wiggo being in the endurance squad, with the final TP line up yet to be determined. Getting up to TP speed in 6 weeks could be a challenge even for a rider as gifted as Sir Brad.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

TP yes, by the sounds.

Getting up to TP speed in 6 weeks could be a challenge even for a rider as gifted as Sir Brad.

 

[Vino's Mum]

Getting up to TP speed in 6 weeks could be a challenge even for a rider as gifted as Sir Brad.

Nonsense. He can do it all: This is a track cyclist.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Update :

Sir Bradley Wiggins only competing in team pursuit at Commonwealth Games (could have been in individual pursuit, road race & time trial too)

https://twitter.com/danroan/status/491262265614942208

 

[ralphbert]

He would have done the IP, Road race & TT but his training time has been cut short due to uncontrollable laughter from watching the tour.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Im not convinced Wiggins was doping during his track years, his TDF win yes, but not the track.

That said - someone elsewhere mentioned he did a 4:13 in training. How is it he went 2 seconds quicker in training than his best time ever in comp?

Or was it like the recent Giro MTT where the last rider can pace themselves to perfection, and win, without going all out?

Would also explain how Wiggins managed to so reliably back up his qualifying times in the heats or final - he was never going au bloc.

 

[oldcrank]

That said - someone elsewhere mentioned he did a 4:13 in training. How is it he went 2 seconds quicker in training than his best time ever in comp?

Or was it like the recent Giro MTT where the last rider can pace themselves to perfection, and win, without going all out?

Would also explain how Wiggins managed to so reliably back up his qualifying times in the heats or final - he was never going au bloc.

I am not wanting to enter into any discussions about
doping, but I'd be happy to address your (seemingly
sincere) question about 'faster in training.'

It is really not that uncommon because:
(1) you can warm-up on the track, perhaps even
behind the derny, instead of having your final race
preparations on the rollers and having to fit into the
carnival schedule;
(2) the pads may not be out allowing you to save a
few metres and allowing you to focus totally on
riding and not on missing the pads;
(3) there is probably a pace-line of riders warming-up
above the blue line that will also give you a bit of an
advantage as well.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I am not wanting to enter into any discussions about
doping, but I'd be happy to address your (seemingly
sincere) question about 'faster in training.'

It is really not that uncommon because:
(1) you can warm-up on the track, perhaps even
behind the derny, instead of having your final race
preparations on the rollers and having to fit into the
carnival schedule;
(2) the pads may not be out allowing you to save a
few metres and allowing you to focus totally on
riding and not on missing the pads;
(3) there is probably a pace-line of riders warming-up
above the blue line that will also give you a bit of an
advantage as well.

Ah. I have had to put up with all that when training as well. Mind you, I am far from a world champion or olympic gold medalist who was one of the key reasons the BC track program had ongoing funding.

I was under the impression that the time, given it's quick, would have been done under comp conditions, so they can gauge training effect and form.

That he was competing in a pursuit event while other people were training on the track, without the stress of pads to emulate competition conditions, having done a non-competition possible warm up behind a derny, does not make any sense whatsoever to my personal experience and research on how to prepare for competition, but does provide an explanation for the apparent discrepancy between training and competition times.

ETA: thinking about it, I am surprised you did not suggest it was a flying start as well ;-)

Cheers.