Well I myself was calling for Wiggins to make a strong statement regarding LA as the current patron and senior rider and he has. Now it depends whether people take it at face value or not. Clearly some aren't...
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Yes, some of us aren't. With good reason. Which is explained in this thread.JimmyFingers said:Well I myself was calling for Wiggins to make a strong statement regarding LA as the current patron and senior rider and he has. Now it depends whether people take it at face value or not. Clearly some aren't...
hrotha said:Yes, some of us aren't. With good reason. Which is explained in this thread.
JimmyFingers said:Well I myself was calling for Wiggins to make a strong statement regarding LA as the current patron and senior rider and he has. Now it depends whether people take it at face value or not. Clearly some aren't...
JimmyFingers said:I do get weary of people re-quoting the same things again and again he has said years before. People change, opinions change, situations change. Just saying
Ninety5rpm said:Seems like Wiggins is following Armstrong's play book... Feigning indignation and doubling down on the lies.
What's the point? STFU!
JimmyFingers said:I do get weary of people re-quoting the same things again and again he has said years before. People change, opinions change, situations change. Just saying
JimmyFingers said:Well I myself was calling for Wiggins to make a strong statement regarding LA as the current patron and senior rider and he has. Now it depends whether people take it at face value or not. Clearly some aren't...
The Hitch said:That's the point situations change. Its not like wiggins started doing some research and came.to the conclusion that his early opinions were probably wrong. Instead, wiggins change of opinion just happens to come as the side he threw his lot in lost. That's significant. He's fleeing a sinking ship (or completing the escape started when rd was released)
Jimmy, analyze this, I bolded the important part:JimmyFingers said:Believe I don't expect anything different. But we have been calling him to say something like this, so when he says nothing, he gets criticism, and when he does say something he gets criticism.
I do get weary of people re-quoting the same things again and again he has said years before. People change, opinions change, situations change. Just saying
He knew back then LA was doping - according to LA he was clean at his comback [yeah right] - and still started the bromance for Lance. How about that for a hypocrite?Bradley Wiggins said:"That was the thing that upset me the most about 2009 and 2010. I thought you lying *******. I can still remember going toe-to-toe with him, watching him and his body language. The man I saw at the top of Verbier in 2009 to the man I saw on the top of Ventoux two weeks later, it wasn't the same bike rider. Watch the videos and see the way the guy was riding. I just don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth anymore," said Wiggins.
JimmyFingers said:Believe I don't expect anything different. But we have been calling him to say something like this, so when he says nothing, he gets criticism, and when he does say something he gets criticism.
I do get weary of people re-quoting the same things again and again he has said years before. People change, opinions change, situations change. Just saying
and then he winks and says "You understand?" leaving us in no doubt what was "incredibile"Joachim said:Ahh yes..the quote where he goes on to say Wiggins can only do what he did because he is a true champion.
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zalacain said:and then he winks and says "You understand?" leaving us in no doubt what was "incredibile"
Who is this 'we'?JimmyFingers said:Believe I don't expect anything different. But we have been calling him to say something like this, so when he says nothing, he gets criticism, and when he does say something he gets criticism.
I do get weary of people re-quoting the same things again and again he has said years before. People change, opinions change, situations change. Just saying
JimmyFingers said:Believe I don't expect anything different. But we have been calling him to say something like this, so when he says nothing, he gets criticism, and when he does say something he gets criticism.
I do get weary of people re-quoting the same things again and again he has said years before. People change, opinions change, situations change. Just saying
the asian said:Wiggins is highly unpredictable in what he says. and makes no sense most of the time.
You can have a good laugh by reading what he has said on the Armstrong affair over the period.
Dr. Maserati said:Who is this 'we'?
And doesn't that also open the possibility that he is saying what people want him to say?
I actually believe thats what Wiggins problem is, he says stuff to placate people - I prefer if he was just honest.(and I think he would be a lot more fun)
SundayRider said:Wiggins is nervous as he has created a monster now by winning the Tour, its like a boulder that's rolling down a big hill so fast that it can't be stopped. Whatever he does this season he is going to be under deep suspicion, if he does well at the Giro/Tour people will say its because of doping if he flops at one/both of those events people will say its because he's not doping or doping less this year.
Franklin said:In the eye of the public he's clean and rightly so, there is nothing remotely incriminating against him. The most scandalous thing is Leinders, but there is absolutely no proof Leinders injected Brad.
I think the worst that can happen (barring a positive of him/teammate) is being destroyed by the competition, making his win a worthless fluke. The Brittish press might not be gentle
But considering his performance this year he should be able to at least show some of his capabilities and avoid a thorough drubbing.
We will see.
martinvickers said:I'm not sure even that would diminish him - the Tour/Gold double probably immunises him to the public to all bar doping/sex offences- if he now folds but is still seen as clean, people will just say, ah well, he's 30-odd, and still warm to him. And it's hard to write off an entire mad year as a 'fluke', even if it's never quite matched - see Roche, S, 1987
Franklin said:In the eye of the public he's clean and rightly so, there is nothing remotely incriminating against him. The most scandalous thing is Leinders, but there is absolutely no proof Leinders injected Brad.
I think the worst that can happen (barring a positive of him/teammate) is being destroyed by the competition, making his win a worthless fluke. The Brittish press might not be gentle
But considering his performance this year he should be able to at least show some of his capabilities and avoid a thorough drubbing.
We will see.
Joachim said:I don't think Wiggins is at all bothered. About anything really. TdF Champion, Olympic TT champion, fukloads of Gold medals, some other race wins. Pretty impressive palmares for somebody with little natural self-belief.
You are right, there is not a whiff of suspicion around him (sorry, a few anonymous loudmouths on a forum don't count for anything).
That may change, he may be totally full of ***, he may go down in flames. Nothing would surprise me. But, as things go, he looks totally relaxed and open.