Hell of a way to leave both.coinneach said:has anybody else ever won the tour and a road world championship and never competed in either again?
I liked the guy in 2009 TdF, but disliked him in the Sky GT days. After the Giro 2013 he looked like past it, but he totally became likable after growing beard and riding this year's Paris-Roubaix and now this, I appreciate him and wish him the best with his ambitions.Maaaaaaaarten said:Hopefully he will keep on targeting Paris-Roubaix and the hour record.
Tour De France, TT world champ, Paris-Nice, Dauphine, Romandie, very successful track career, hopefully the hour record and Paris-Roubaix.... It's like the palmares from one of the greats of a few decades ago.
I've already lost my dislike for Wiggins some time ago, but I'm even slowly starting to like him.![]()
Not really. It's likely that he used that as motivation and the extra training time to give him the legs he had today. Sky wouldn't have won a GT this year with Brad in the line up. But they probably wouldn't have a world champ on their hands if they had done.webvan said:Another amazing feat, PR would definitely be the icing on the cake! Such a waste that the clowns at Sky couldn't find him a spot to ride a GT this year though, oh well, their loss I suppose.
webvan said:Winning a GT this year, probably not, but we'll never know, snubbing him for both the TDF and Vuelta that Wiggo said he was game for was shameful behavior anyway you look at. Has ratface DB coughed up a comment about Wiggo's smashing victory today?
Cobbles support riders?MellowJohnny said:It was a great ride by Wiggo yesterday, I'm really pleased for him and I wonder if he can have a go for Paris-Roubaix. I wonder if Sky will sign any supporting cobbles domestiques to help?
The is with Wiggo and Froome there was only ever going to be 1 of them going on the team, Wiggo basically announced this on BBC breakfast tv, I think that was against DB's orders.
I think Wiggo saved himself some humiliation for the tour that day, I think Nibali and the French riders would have smashed him to pieces in the mountains.
Good post.MellowJohnny said:It was a great ride by Wiggo yesterday, I'm really pleased for him and I wonder if he can have a go for Paris-Roubaix. I wonder if Sky will sign any supporting cobbles domestiques to help?
The is with Wiggo and Froome there was only ever going to be 1 of them going on the team, Wiggo basically announced this on BBC breakfast tv, I think that was against DB's orders.
I think Wiggo saved himself some humiliation for the tour that day, I think Nibali and the French riders would have smashed him to pieces in the mountains.
There's no way he'd have been smashed to pieces on the mountains if he'd have had full knowledge of going and the appropriate prep work. He could have easily stayed with Nibali as he's got no final kick like Wiggins, just diesels his way to the finish.MellowJohnny said:It was a great ride by Wiggo yesterday, I'm really pleased for him and I wonder if he can have a go for Paris-Roubaix. I wonder if Sky will sign any supporting cobbles domestiques to help?
The is with Wiggo and Froome there was only ever going to be 1 of them going on the team, Wiggo basically announced this on BBC breakfast tv, I think that was against DB's orders.
I think Wiggo saved himself some humiliation for the tour that day, I think Nibali and the French riders would have smashed him to pieces in the mountains.
Sky would have been all focused on Froome, they would have used Wiggins on the front of the pack to drive the train to the mountains (as they did with Knees and EBH in years previous) - Wiggins can climb with the best but only when he has Froome, Rogers and Porte dragging him up the climbs. - I think Nibali at least would have dance'd away from him.elfed68 said:There's no way he'd have been smashed to pieces on the mountains if he'd have had full knowledge of going and the appropriate prep work. He could have easily stayed with Nibali as he's got no final kick like Wiggins, just diesels his way to the finish.
I still think he had the gas to win PR, just that he lacked the confidence to go with Terpstra, or even go himself, that would have been pretty amazing to see!
He's been shamefully treated by Team Sky hence the return to track I guess, I'll miss him as a rider and character.
Think this description would be better posted in a Tony Martin thread! Don't get me wrong - I like Tony, but this week we saw finesse overcome brute force, a classy performance by Wiggins and his palmares says it allwillbick said:'wide skill set' lol. he can put out 400w for a long time. that is his skill. nothing else. which is not to say it isnt a good skill, and its certainly one more high-level skill than most riders have. in many ways he's like a tennis player with a big serve and not a lot else. the Roddick of cycling lol
Sagan is a bike rider. Wiggins is a diesel engine on 2 wheels. i like the guy, but he is what he is
Could Wiggins have won the Tour this year? Was climbing well in the ToC beforehand, albeit against 2nd tier climbers, without much support. He smashed the TT there too. Proved he can handle the cobbles too. Wonder if Brailsford regrets not taking him.elfed68 said:There's no way he'd have been smashed to pieces on the mountains if he'd have had full knowledge of going and the appropriate prep work. He could have easily stayed with Nibali as he's got no final kick like Wiggins, just diesels his way to the finish.
I still think he had the gas to win PR, just that he lacked the confidence to go with Terpstra, or even go himself, that would have been pretty amazing to see!
He's been shamefully treated by Team Sky hence the return to track I guess, I'll miss him as a rider and character.
no chance,maybe a 2nd place but no more imo.dastott said:Could Wiggins have won the Tour this year? Was climbing well in the ToC beforehand, albeit against 2nd tier climbers, without much support. He smashed the TT there too. Proved he can handle the cobbles too. Wonder if Brailsford regrets not taking him.
Nibali was as strong a rider two years ago with Cannondale (and no support) against Wiggins.ILovecycling said:no chance,maybe a 2nd place but no more imo.
I don't think for one second Wiggins could have beaten Nibali this year but I don't get the comparison with a rider who has never won a single race in his whole career.MellowJohnny said:Nibali was as strong a rider two years ago with Cannondale (and no support) against Wiggins.
Nibali and Astana were in command of the GC throughout this years tour, he would have smashed Wiggins imo, - The French would have likely combined against Wiggins also, so I think a top 10 would have been more realistic. Not sure Bradley would have liked that and may well have thrown his toys (or bike) out of the pram as he did at the Giro.
Its a bit like saying Jurgen Van Den Broeck who have won it also.
and who is that riderBernie's eyesore said:I don't think for one second Wiggins could have beaten Nibali this year but I don't get the comparison with a rider who has never won a single race in his whole career.
Quite clear who the rider is. Maybe you should read the forum!roundabout said:and who is that rider
and more importantly what does it have to do with this comparison
J.VDB won a stage at Dauphiné in 2011 or 2012Bernie's eyesore said:I don't think for one second Wiggins could have beaten Nibali this year but I don't get the comparison with a rider who has never won a single race in his whole career.