World Championship 2025: Men’s RR, September 28

[RedheadDane]

Bak speculating that maybe the French ate something bad.

 

[Cycling111]

Vermeersch didn't help in Paris-Roubaix, just saving energy to get his fifth place. I doubt he'll get into trouble in Belgium for helping now.

 

[Berniece]

Vermeersch already knew what to do before the start: set the pace before mount Kigali (he isn't even supposed to race beyond that climb). That's something that is as beneficial for Pogacar as for Remco, so there is no conflict of interest and thus not really relevant when discussing country teams vs. trade teams.

So we’ll all find it completely normal if Roglic would ride for Evenepoel later in the race?

 

[KoopaCycling]

the french look decimated by sickness

Also Vermeersch was brought for the first part of the race indeed. no one is expecting anything of him after reaching the 100k mark till the finish.

Big blow for remco though, van wilder crash.

 

[ChasingPotatoes]

So we’ll all find it completely normal if Roglic would ride for Evenepoel later in the race?

They're no team mates. I know they will be, but there is no comparison at the moment. You could even argue Roglic will be Remco's intra-team competition which could be worse than being in a different team.

 

[tobydawq]

Vermeersch already knew what to do before the start: set the pace before mount Kigali (he isn't even supposed to race beyond that climb). That's something that is as beneficial for Pogacar as for Remco, so there is no conflict of interest and thus not really relevant when discussing country teams vs. trade teams.

You act as though people always ride for the trade teams at worlds when it really isn't the case very often.

 

[ChasingPotatoes]

Shoes with laces are lighter, and more aerodynamic (if neatly arranged). Mikkel Honore will prove this by losing a minute on the peloton thightening his laces.

 

[RedheadDane]

All of Pogacar's helpers near the front of the peloton.

And Honoré with an... unusual... mechanical?

 

[ChasingPotatoes]

You act as though people always ride for the trade teams at worlds when it really isn't the case very often.

No, I don't act like that. My take is that the default behaviour is to follow country team tactics in World's. You read things that simply aren't there. I only argued that some riders simply have no better option to even think about deflecting from those tactics (like Vermeersch), so in those cases, discussing options that aren't there, isn't relevant.

 

[KoopaCycling]

You act as though people always ride for the trade teams at worlds when it really isn't the case very often.

Depends what country you're from. It's been a known issue in the lowlands.
And I know belgium made a big fuzz when Roglic failed to do any work for Van Aert, even though he could no longer win, nor was there in that race a slovenian that could win.

 

[Salvarani]

You act as though people always ride for the trade teams at worlds when it really isn't the case very often.

It has gotten to some people head it seems, this topic.

On the case of Vermeersch.... it would be unforgivable of him to ride for Pog here. He is Belgian and they have Remco in the team, that is his leader.

I dont know why people think this is a thing.

 

[RedheadDane]

No, I don't act like that. My take is that the default behaviour is to follow team tactics. You read things that simply aren't there.

Team tactic in this case would be tactics of the national team.

 

[Cycling111]

You act as though people always ride for the trade teams at worlds when it really isn't the case very often.

Vermeersch is pulling for Belgium. They shouldn't say now as it's for some other reason. His teammates had already made a gesture.

 

[chickenlips]

So we’ll all find it completely normal if Roglic would ride for Evenepoel later in the race?

Or the other way round 😁

 

[Red Rick]

You act as though people always ride for the trade teams at worlds when it really isn't the case very often.

Well I do remember the Belgians having their torches and pitchforks out in 2020.

 

[KoopaCycling]

It has gotten to some people head it seems, this topic.

On the case of Vermeersch.... it would be unforgivable of him to ride for Pog here. He is Belgian and they have Remco in the team, that is his leader.

I dont know why people think this is a thing.

Ofcourse it would be. Vermeersch could have taken the Wellens route if he did not want to ride for Remco against Pogacar. Which i do not agree with (wellens decision), but it's considered acceptable.

 

[Salvarani]

Ofcourse it would be. Vermeersch could have taken the Wellens route if he did not want to ride for Remco against Pogacar. Which i do not agree with (wellens decision), but it's considered acceptable.

Wellens seem in really bad form after a long season.

Vermeersch is fresher and made more sense to select.

 

[KoopaCycling]

It was clear long ago he would not race the WC for that reason.
Wellens is not in shape cause he no longer needs to be.

 

[ChasingPotatoes]

It has gotten to some people head it seems, this topic.

On the case of Vermeersch.... it would be unforgivable of him to ride for Pog here. He is Belgian and they have Remco in the team, that is his leader.

I dont know why people think this is a thing.

There are zero scenarios in this race where Vermeersch could even ride for Pog (and against Remco).
He is just there pacing the peloton for 100K before being dropped on Mount Kigali and going to the box after crossing the finish line on the parcours. This discussion is irrelevant.

 

[KoopaCycling]

There are zero scenarios in this race where Vermeersch could even ride for Pog (and against Remco).
He is just there pacing the peloton for 100K before being dropped on Mount Kigali and going to the box after crossing the finish line on the parcours. This discussion is irrelevant.

Unless Pogacar has a flat and Vermeersch drops back to help chase back the peloton

 

[Salvarani]

There are zero scenarios in this race where Vermeersch could even ride for Pog (and against Remco).
He is just there pacing the peloton for 100K before being dropped on Mount Kigali and going to the box after crossing the finish line on the parcours. This discussion is irrelevant.

Ok?

Why did Toby say that then to you.

 

[Red Rick]

Roglic and Pogacar hatefully staring at each other cracking jokes

 

[KoopaCycling]

well, i hope nothing major happens next couple of hours.
no time to watch for awhille.

 

[Berniece]

You read things that simply aren't there. I only argued that some riders simply have no better option to even think about deflecting from those tactics (like Vermeersch), so in those cases, discussing options that aren't there, isn't relevant.

Gianetti himself said they could do the same as last year with Sivakov. Specifically saying UAE riders could ride for Pogacar so a weak Slovenia doesn’t matter.

If I was the NC those riders would never be invited again.

 

[broppo]

So Belgium is just gonna control with Slovenia. Perfect scenario for Pog