2011 Giro d'Italia rumours

[Mellow Velo]

The Giro confirms a visit to the Alpe for 2012. 60th aniversary of Fausto Coppi winning the first ascent.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-finestre-climb-then-alpe-d-huez-in-2012.html

Also confirms the Colle delle Finestre in a monster 242km stage.

 

[The Hitch]

The Giro confirms a visit to the Alpe for 2012. 60th aniversary of Fausto Coppi winning the first ascent.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-finestre-climb-then-alpe-d-huez-in-2012.html

Also confirms the Colle delle Finestre in a monster 242km stage.

Alpe d huez in the giro . That will probably be their week 1 warm up before the real mountains of the 3rd week.

It will be interesting to see what crowds they get when its the Giro.

Interesting news this.

Lets hope the France returns the favour and we get the Zonc in the Tour. Or Mortirolo, though preferably Zoncolan. Come to think about it, would be nice to have 3 or 4 days in there, Stelvio, Kronplatz etc.

 

[icefire]

Lets hope the France returns the favour and we get the Zonc in the Tour. Or Mortirolo, though preferably Zoncolan. Come to think about it, would be nice to have 3 or 4 days in there, Stelvio, Kronplatz etc.

All those climbs are in the far East for the Tour

Finestre and Fauniera are closer to the French border and would be more than enough

 

[roundabout]

The Tour could have included Finestre this year.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

It will be interesting to see what crowds they get when its the Giro.

Crowds may not be as big but the racing will be a lot better.

 

[The Hitch]

All those climbs are in the far East for the Tour

Finestre and Fauniera are closer to the French border and would be more than enough

I thought that too. But then again, the Vuelta started in Holland last year about 1000km out. The Giro started there too, about 700km out. The big Italian alps, are about 400km out from France. The problem would be going there AND back since your not going to start there, but then again travel a few hundred km between stages and your fine.

Crowds may not be as big but the racing will be a lot better.

Really? the Alpe is usually well raced. Even in the Tour.

 

[Barrus]

I thought that too. But then again, the Vuelta started in Holland last year about 1000km out. The Giro started there too, about 700km out. The big Italian alps, are about 400km out from France. The problem would be going there AND back since your not going to start there, but then again travel a few hundred km between stages and your fine.

Well you could always start with the Zoncolan in the first stage, as a mountain time trial as a prologue

Although I think only the Giro would be crazy enough to start with that

 

[lucybears]

Sabato 7 maggio: 1. tappa Venaria Reale-Torino 21,5 km (cronosquadre)
Domenica 8 maggio: 2. tappa Alba-Parma 242 km
Lunedì 9 maggio: 3. tappa Reggio Emilia-Rapallo 178 km
Martedì 10 maggio: 4. tappa Quarto dei Mille-Livorno 208 km
Mercoledì 11 maggio: 5. tappa Piombino-Orvieto 201 km
Giovedì 12 maggio: 6. tappa Orvieto-Fiuggi Terme 195 km
Venerdì 13 maggio: 7. tappa Maddaloni-Montevergine di Mercogliano 100 km
Sabato 14 maggio: 8. tappa Sapri-Tropea 214 km
Domenica 15 maggio: 9. tappa Messina-Etna 159 km
Lunedì 16 maggio: riposo
Martedì 17 maggio: 10. tappa Termoli-Teramo 158 km
Mercoledì 18 maggio: 11. tappa Teramo-Castelfidardo 162 km
Giovedì 19 maggio: 12. tappa Castelfidardo-Ravenna 171 km
Venerdì 20 maggio: 13. tappa Spilimbergo-Grossclockner (Aut) 210 km
Sabato 21 maggio: 14. tappa Lienz (Aut)-Zoncolan 210 km
Domenica 22 maggio: 15. tappa Conegliano Gardeccia Val di Fassa 230 km
Lunedì 23 maggio: riposo
Martedì 24 maggo: 16. tappa Belluno-Nevegal 12,7 km (cronoscalata)
Mercoledì 25 maggio: 17. tappa Feltre-Sondrio 246 km
Giovedì 26 maggio: 18. tappa Morbegno-San Pellegrino Terme 147 km
Venerdì 27 maggio: 19. tappa Bergamo-Macugnaga 211 km
Sabato 28 maggio: 20. tappa Verbania-Sestrière 242 km
Domenica 29 maggio: Milano 32,8 km (cronometro individuale)

 

[roundabout]

That's a lot of transfers. Hopefully one day someone will smack some common sense into Zomegnan.

 

[The Hitch]

Whats this 100km stage?

tappa Maddaloni-Montevergine di Mercogliano 100 km

Does it have any obstacles that make it so short, or have they concluded that since sprint stages are all about the final km anyway, might as well make them short.

 

[roundabout]

It's not a sprint stage.

http://www.salite.ch/montevergine.a...pfa2o&dx=485&dy=330&empriseW=970&empriseH=661

The finish is where the yellow is on the graph.

 

[issoisso]

It's not a sprint stage.

http://www.salite.ch/montevergine.a...pfa2o&dx=485&dy=330&empriseW=970&empriseH=661

The finish is where the yellow is on the graph.

Actually the Montevergine is always a 20-30 man sprint

(The Giro tends to have a very easy mountain stage in the first 8 days, and the Montevergine is the most popular location for that finish)

 

[roundabout]

well, yeah.

 

[lucybears]

Whats this 100km stage? Does it have any obstacles that make it so short, or have they concluded that since sprint stages are all about the final km anyway, might as well make them short.

OK, distances will be confirmed on saturday...., but that's the best I've got for now....unless you can do better

 

[auscyclefan94]

A lot of people seem to be coming up with different rumours from the same route. Very much a climbers course obviously.

When does la vuelta announce it's route?

 

[Grzdylu]

December i think

 

[Christian]

Don't know if anyone has posted this before:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6096/Giro-dItalia-to-race-up-Mount-Etna-volcano-twice.aspx

... so they're climbing the most active volcano in Europe. Twice. I remember I was there 10 years ago and you could light a cigarette by just holding it to the rocks.

Giro is just show these days, Zomegnan's ideas get crazier and crazier.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

The Giro is already shaping up to be more exciting than the Tour.

Likely or confirmed contenders riding- Nibali, Kreuziger, Arroyo, Scarponi, Sastre, Evans, Anton

Throw in Ricco, Pozzovivo and Sella and if any of those are riding in the mountains then you get an unpredicatable race.

you can add duarte there and let's hope rujano

 

[Climbing]

Don't know if anyone has posted this before:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6096/Giro-dItalia-to-race-up-Mount-Etna-volcano-twice.aspx

... so they're climbing the most active volcano in Europe. Twice. I remember I was there 10 years ago and you could light a cigarette by just holding it to the rocks.

Giro is just show these days, Zomegnan's ideas get crazier and crazier.

Well, it seems a bit insane said like that, but it's not like they are riding trying to avoid lava like in a movie.
That will happen in 2012.

 

[crocycling]

Zomegnan with this route tries to make giro bigger than tour, but he can put 21 mtf and still giro would be insignificant to tour. History , tradition, legends, that's something giro doesn't have as near as tour.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Zomegnan with this route tries to make giro bigger than tour, but he can put 21 mtf and still giro would be insignificant to tour. History , tradition, legends, that's something giro doesn't have as near as tour.

Complete bollocks.
The Giro has huge historical importance. For many years it was far bigger than the Tour. Only in recent decades has the situation reversed. Not so long ago, the Tour had difficulty in fielding a full peloton.
Insignificant, is a total insult.

 

[Christian]

Complete bollocks.
The Giro has huge historical importance. For many years it was far bigger than the Tour. Only in recent decades has the situation reversed. Not so long ago, the Tour had difficulty in fielding a full peloton.
Insignificant, is a total insult.

It does smell a bit like desperate showboating though.

 

[jens_attacks]

you can add duarte there and let's hope rujano

and great news!now you can add franco pellizotti.

 

[Anonymous]

Zomegnan with this route tries to make giro bigger than tour, but he can put 21 mtf and still giro would be insignificant to tour. History , tradition, legends, that's something giro doesn't have as near as tour.

Are you joking.. For many the Giro has far more tradition, and romance to it than the tour.

The tour may be older, but certainly over the last 30 or so years all the tour has become is a formulaic race, where one rider sees to be able to dominate for several years.. Merckx, Hinault, Indurain, armstrong, Contador. The tour basically has the same three or four landmark climbs it revisits on a yearly basis, ventoux, tourmalet, alpe d'huez, while the giro every year offers something different, and often something new.

Sorry but give me Bartoli, Coppi, or Gimondi wearing pink over Hinault wearing yellow any day of the week.

 

[Barrus]

Zomegnan with this route tries to make giro bigger than tour, but he can put 21 mtf and still giro would be insignificant to tour. History , tradition, legends, that's something giro doesn't have as near as tour.

You couldn't be more wrong. As Dim and mellow velo so perfectly described
especially to most Italians, the tour will never be as important as the Giro