2017 Tour of Flanders / Ronde Van Vlaanderen - April 2, 260k

[Forever The Best]

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What a way to celebrate!

Who was that italian who did it at the Vuelta like 15 years ago? I can't remember right now

Filippo Simeoni. It was the main thing he was known for before Lance.

Thanks, I could only remember he dedicated it to the September 11th victims.

Ulissi did it in País Vasco last year too.

Rosa?

It was Rosa indeed. Also Tim Wellens did it in last years Giro stage 6.

 

[Cannibal72]

Re: 2017 Tour of Flanders / Ronde Van Vlaanderen - April 2,

Only active rider to have three different monuments, only the second Walloon winner in Flanders ever (Criquelion the other). Wow.

Also LOL at Sagan crashing out because he tried to ride in the gully. Them's the breaks karma offers.

So, the fair outcome would be for 95% of the field to crash out? Right?

Or surely a huge LOL was in order would it have happened.

Maybe you can go and find someone who thinks it was 'fair' for Sagan to have crashed, if you want an argument, since I didn't, and therefore didn't write that. Just that it moderately amused me.

 

[Brullnux]

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What a way to celebrate!

Who was that italian who did it at the Vuelta like 15 years ago? I can't remember right now

Filippo Simeoni. It was the main thing he was known for before Lance.

Ulissi did it in País Vasco last year too.

Rosa, Ulissi is unable to win outside of Italy.

 

[Leffe_Bruin]

Dylan van Baarle needs to move to a different team next year where he will be sole leader just like Naesen did. Maybe LottoNL or Sunweb

 

[Flamin]

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GVA now realizes that Phil Gilbert was always better than him in the cobbled classics...

That's simply not true at all.

Yes it is. I don't know how you can't see that.

So Gilbert was this strong in the past 5 years? Please. I've seen races where Greg led out Gilbert in a sprint and still finished in front of him.

 

[El Pistolero]

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Philippe Gilbert, by far the best classics specialist of his generation: Ronde van Vlaanderen, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro di Lombardia (twice) and the World Championships.

Ronde van Vlaanderen when the favourite crashes out, Liege-Bastogne-Liege in the absence of the best ardennes specialist of his era, Valverde

Someone had to do a pistolero :lol:

Can't crash if no one is in front of you.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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C'mon, people, you should really dig in into history books to get the symbolism of Gilbert's crossing... Once in a century!

Memories are very, very short in cycling. Almost amnesia.

 

[Netserk]

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What a way to celebrate!

#justbelgianthings

#RosaDidItFirst

 

[Brullnux]

Well done to Van Baarle too, gutsy ride. Seemed to be weaker than Felline on the Koppenberg but managed his efforts better.

 

[DFA123]

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Philippe Gilbert, by far the best classics specialist of his generation: Ronde van Vlaanderen, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro di Lombardia (twice) and the World Championships.

Ronde van Vlaanderen when the favourite crashes out, Liege-Bastogne-Liege in the absence of the best ardennes specialist of his era, Valverde

Someone had to do a pistolero :lol:

Can't crash if no one is in front of you.

Sagan managed it.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Philippe Gilbert, by far the best classics specialist of his generation: Ronde van Vlaanderen, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro di Lombardia (twice) and the World Championships.

Ronde van Vlaanderen when the favourite crashes out, Liege-Bastogne-Liege in the absence of the best ardennes specialist of his era, Valverde

Someone had to do a pistolero :lol:

Can't crash if no one is in front of you.

Tell that to Sagan and Vanmarcke

 

[Irondan]

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GVA now realizes that Phil Gilbert was always better than him in the cobbled classics...

That's simply not true at all.

Yes it is. I don't know how you can't see that.

So Gilbert was this strong in the past 5 years? Please. I've seen races where Greg led out Gilbert in a sprint and still finished in front of him.

Gilbert wasn't allowed by his team to ride these races in the last five years, but before he went to BMC Gilbert podiumed this race twice, and has now won it. There's more results but I don't have time to do any research at the moment but will gladly revisit this conversation at a later time.

 

[saganftw]

stop with this crashing BS, vanmarcke is down every other day and took rowe with him today as well...stuff happens, if its karma then poor Sep must have been an absolutely horrible human being in his previous life

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Philippe Gilbert, by far the best classics specialist of his generation: Ronde van Vlaanderen, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro di Lombardia (twice) and the World Championships.

Ronde van Vlaanderen when the favourite crashes out, Liege-Bastogne-Liege in the absence of the best ardennes specialist of his era, Valverde

Someone had to do a pistolero :lol:

Can't crash if no one is in front of you.

Tell that to Sagan and Vanmarcke

And the hundreds of other riders who have crashed on descents or in corners in the history of cycling ...

 

[trucido]

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stop with this crashing BS, vanmarcke is down every other day and took rowe with him today as well...stuff happens, if its karma then poor Sep must have been an absolutely horrible human being in his previous life

Tell that to half of the Bahrain team today.

 

[Escarabajo]

Nice race. Great win for Gilbert.

With Sagan in there it would have been close. It was a headwind so one more body pulling could have made the difference. But it was his own wrongdoing anyway.

 

[DFA123]

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I genuinely don't think the crash would have changed anything, Gilbert was insanely strong today.

Agreed, was an incredible win. One of the greatest of all time. A bit sad that some fanboys are trying to diminish that with unlikely hypotheticals.

 

[saganftw]

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stop with this crashing BS, vanmarcke is down every other day and took rowe with him today as well...stuff happens, if its karma then poor Sep must have been an absolutely horrible human being in his previous life

Tell that to half of the Bahrain team today.

that one taiwanese guy who crashed like twice...really suspicious :lol:

 

[DirtyWorks]

Coryn Rivera won!?!?!?

I had grave doubts she could do it today.

 

[roundabout]

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GVA now realizes that Phil Gilbert was always better than him in the cobbled classics...

That's simply not true at all.

Yes it is. I don't know how you can't see that.

So Gilbert was this strong in the past 5 years? Please. I've seen races where Greg led out Gilbert in a sprint and still finished in front of him.

Gilbert wasn't allowed by his team to ride these races in the last five years, but before he went to BMC Gilbert podiumed this race twice, and has now won it. There's more results but I don't have time to do any research at the moment but will gladly revisit this conversation at a later time.

He raced the Ronde in 2012. He was also pretty bad on the cobbles in 2013, but true, he did not ride any in the last 3 years, I think.

 

[deValtos]

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stop with this crashing BS, vanmarcke is down every other day and took rowe with him today as well...stuff happens, if its karma then poor Sep must have been an absolutely horrible human being in his previous life

Yea there's a lot of people to feel bad for today. I think Rowe was on for a real good run for example ...

 

[Billie]

Kwaremont twice, Paterberg twice, Koppenberg, Mariaborrestraat-Steenbeekdries-Stationsstraat, Taaienberg, Kruisberg-Hotond. What a solo.

 

[Laplaz]

Gigs, did you watched this?

 

[DFA123]

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Kwaremont twice, Paterberg twice, Koppenberg, Mariaborrestraat-Steenbeekdries-Stationsstraat, Taaienberg, Kruisberg-Hotond. What a solo.

Astonishing stuff. Don't forget the Muur as well. He led the peloton for about 5km into it and, along with great work from Boonen, helped initiate the split there.

 

[Flamin]

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GVA now realizes that Phil Gilbert was always better than him in the cobbled classics...

That's simply not true at all.

Yes it is. I don't know how you can't see that.

So Gilbert was this strong in the past 5 years? Please. I've seen races where Greg led out Gilbert in a sprint and still finished in front of him.

Gilbert wasn't allowed by his team to ride these races in the last five years, but before he went to BMC Gilbert podiumed this race twice, and has now won it. There's more results but I don't have time to do any research at the moment but will gladly revisit this conversation at a later time.

Gilbert rode races like Omloop and E3 multiple times with BMC. He just sucked. Yes, let's continue this in the Gilbert thread...