Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[BlurryVII]

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Yates and Martin finishing better than him, once again, what's going on lol?

He really shouldn't be that bad, it's mind boggling.

You should give him your number so you can coach him. If you wanna cheer for someone just you expect him to win all the time to fill the gaps in your life, then go cheer for the warriors, djokovic, barca,...

Edited by Mod. No need to start insulting people

 

[Miburo]

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Vintage blow up

Contador doesn't just drop, when he loses contact he blows up like a motherfucker. I've never seen it like that with any rider this consistent. I guess Evans although that was even more excessive

But i don't remember any race of Contador where if he drops he loses seconds, it just doesn't happen xD

 

[rune1107]

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I don't understand how he could do a prologue on the level of Porte and Froome, and then get wrecked like this today? The Tour looks difficult now..

I guess he overcooked himself trying to follow Froome. It's an entirely different dynamic. In the TT he could just ride his own tempo, never going too far into the red.

Blowing himself up or not. He would never had caught Fromme

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Tomorrow if he loose time, i think le tour it's over... i just want to see contador in yellow one more time

At least we saw him in yellow this entire week might have been the last time

 

[MovistarRider]

There goes al the hype. If Froome is able to do this to Bertie than i guess only lord knows what Nairo will do with Bertie in the 3d week of the TdF. Should be quite fun

 

[Brullnux]

It's ok, guys. One bad performance does not a disaster make. Contador beforehand had said how he isn't going for the win and is just testing his legs and getting back up to race speed. This is his first real test, maybe Tuesday, of racing. The MTT was too hard and too short to test race rhythm, as well as the fact it's an ITT. Of course it is not how he was in 2014, but it is not the end of the world. For all we know 2014 might've peaked too early in the end. When had we ever seen such a good Contador at the Dauphine? If he finishes the race in 3rd or so then it is no problem, and is similar to how he was pre ban. The Tour is a month away, that is a month to find the legs and find the peak. It's till 1 and a half months to when it really matters, anyway.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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There goes al the hype. If Froome is able to do this to Bertie than i guess only lord knows what Nairo will do with Bertie in the 3d week of the TdF. Should be quite fun

Actually Nairo's presence in the Tour is the only consolation left, if Alberto doesn't have the level it takes (which you really cannot conclude yet). Then we will atleast get a decent battle

 

[Pantani Attacks]

This is the Dauphine, calm down. I swear Bertie stans are the worst.

 

[TheYouyou7]

I'm quite disapointed but still, even if its a bit cliché, it's only the Dauphiné. In 2009 he was s*** here.
We will see more tomorrow.

 

[Miburo]

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This is the Dauphine, calm down. I swear Bertie stans are the worst.

Don't blame them, many are just fans cause Contador used to win everything you see

Tomorrow should be good, in '09 he couldn't drop Evans and Piti and then proceeded to crush everyone.

If there's one WT race where it can be justified to drop, it's the dauphine

 

[ad9898]

Not overly concerned, he did say his legs need race speed. Froome though, he's effing good no matter what you think of him

 

[sir fly]

Not a good day at all. He was dropping quite easily.
I'd say he lacks some depth in base... Entire week he's been struggling at the sharp end of stages.
Tomorrow's a new day.

 

[Red Rick]

Rejoice my brothers and sisters. Our arch rivals are peaking too early. He may have lost the battle, but not the war, for He'll strike back when they think they've won.

The Hypetrain shall never stop

 

[Pantani Attacks]

Today was clearly a very bad day...and he only lost 20s. Chill. TDF is ages away.

 

[Forever The Best]

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There goes al the hype. If Froome is able to do this to Bertie than i guess only lord knows what Nairo will do with Bertie in the 3d week of the TdF. Should be quite fun

Quintana still won't win the Tour.

 

[Netserk]

Well, there is always next year

 

[portugal11]

Nairo and contador just can't compete with froome's accelerations. Col d'aspin will be terrible

 

[MovistarRider]

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There goes al the hype. If Froome is able to do this to Bertie than i guess only lord knows what Nairo will do with Bertie in the 3d week of the TdF. Should be quite fun

Actually Nairo's presence in the Tour is the only consolation left, if Alberto doesn't have the level it takes (which you really cannot conclude yet). Then we will atleast get a decent battle

Don't you worry, Nairo will bring the heat to Froome and his Sky boys. Bertie doesn't have what it takes to go toe-to-toe with either of them. It's a delusion hope.

 

[Taxus4a]

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I don't understand how he could do a prologue on the level of Porte and Froome, and then get wrecked like this today? The Tour looks difficult now..

it is easy to explain, he is similar kind of rider than Horner, he can go out of the saddle for a long and he is very good always in his life in the first climb of an ITT. as I said one, maybe the best in cycling History.

As I said he did a similar performance and level in the prologue than in the second ITT of the Tour 2013, when he dropped easy with Froome Quintana and Purito on the mountains...as I said he could have a level to win le Tour, but just the prologue didnt show that...

He has never show that level after his santion. In Vuelta 2014 he was the well prepared rider for the race among people who were in contention: Valverde, Froome, Purito,...and some circunstances of the race were in his favour. (Quintana crashed early, Froome did a mistake in the ITT,...) so he just need to follow a Froome not at his best level. I aplaude Contador, that Vuelta has a big merit, how early he started to train after his crash, how strong he train, his mental strentg, his determination, and yes, he showed a good level, but not enough to beat Froome or Quintana in le Tour. and the same the rest of the year, although in 2014 he was a little bit stronger than today, similar to Porte today. (it looks more now, but just a little)

But now is le Tour, Quintana and Froome at his best level, this is not Aru.

Cheers!

Anyway the important race is le Tour, we will see, it would be nice to see Contador at a similar level to the rest becouse he is an experienced, intelligent and brave rider, so it would be good for the spectacle.

 

[jilbiker]

The one positive we can all take from this is that Froome has exposed his hand early and Bertie has not (we assume Bertie has a hand...chuckle). My criticism of Froome remains, he is not a tactful rider, he feels as long as I have the strength no one can stop me. Well thats sort of true and he did that in 2013 and 2015. I see that Bertie dropped suddenly almost as if he saw a red indicator and called it off. Was he testing himself with Froome? Perhaps we over-assume about Bertie, that he is doing all this based on a plan, he may just have been plain thrashed.

 

[BlurryVII]

Try not think in absolutes as you always do, there's a difference between winning and finishing behind freaking Yates and Martin. There's an in-between, do you get that or are you that dumb?

He could've followed Froome and Porte, I know for a fact that he can follow Porte at this level so he could've finished with them, could've ended within 10 seconds and so on.

But that was really bad, that's it.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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What the f**k was that... How can you be so good in the prologue and so s**t today...

This is why I think it was simply a bad day today.

More concerning than the gap to Froome was the gap to Porte

 

[Forever The Best]

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There goes al the hype. If Froome is able to do this to Bertie than i guess only lord knows what Nairo will do with Bertie in the 3d week of the TdF. Should be quite fun

Actually Nairo's presence in the Tour is the only consolation left, if Alberto doesn't have the level it takes (which you really cannot conclude yet). Then we will atleast get a decent battle

Don't you worry, Nairo will bring the heat to Froome and his Sky boys. Bertie doesn't have what it takes to go toe-to-toe with either of them. It's a delusion hope.

Ahaahahah.Quintana hype here
Also Contador may be terrible in July,but I think he is far from his peak and will be very good in July.
But Quintana won't win the Tour.

 

[bajbar]

It was like Ruta del Sol last year... Or one stage in the Vuelta 2014... Froome just goes and drills, never looks behind at all. The worst feeling is when Contador is just pulling all sorts of faces behind and then just goes puff... Damn, he needs his usuall Dauphine to Tour form boost... If not, my July is going to be ruined once again...

 

[PremierAndrew]

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The one positive we can all take from this is that Froome has exposed his hand early and Bertie has not (we assume Bertie has a hand...chuckle). My criticism of Froome remains, he is not a tactful rider, he feels as long as I have the strength no one can stop me. Well thats sort of true and he did that in 2013 and 2015. I see that Bertie dropped suddenly almost as if he saw a red indicator and called it off. Was he testing himself with Froome? Perhaps we over-assume about Bertie, that he is doing all this based on a plan, he may just have been plain thrashed.

Think the whole yo-yo strat suggests otherwise.