Cancellara Thread

[Cannibal72]

You're rather underestimating the impact of Sagan's descending in that view, if I remember rightly.

 

[pedromiguelmartins]

You're rather underestimating the impact of Sagan's descending in that view, if I remember rightly.

Me? Where?

He powered away on the flat and had 18+ secs at the top of patenberg.

 

[Oldermanish]

You're rather underestimating the impact of Sagan's descending in that view, if I remember rightly.

And Cancellara was working with a tired Sep, who had crashed twice and chased on. People previously questioned Sep's reasoning in this but he had no choice if he wanted to podium for all of his trouble. Cancellara would have gone all-in solo if he had the legs to catch Sagan. Sagan was faster, all day.
The fact that both Cancellara and Vanmarker offered second place to each other shows their mutual respect and all out commitment to chase. Fun to see that class exists in the peloton.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I'm a big Cancellara fan but even I need to admit that Sagan was the strongest rider on the day. Even if Canc followed the earlier move by Sagan, I still think that Sagan could have still outshone him on the Oude Kwaremont and Paterberg.

I'm still hoping that Cancellara can win another PR.

I didnt see that. Sagan could have won on the sprint, but never drop Cancellara, maybe the contrary.

Cancellara dis a mistake, Sagan risk a little and this time was perfect for him.

I didnt watch Sagan doing more work than Kiato, and almost 40 second is too much difference.

Of course you didn't, you had the blinders on.

Sagan did by far the biggest part of the work. Fabian was allowed (by sagan) to be just 5s away at the oude kwaremont. Then Peter made the distance go up to 16/17 seconds before the Patenberg.

Remember, while Sagan was charging the group, Fabian was behind Devolder/Katusha/Astana. Not once did he put his beautiful nose in the wind after Sagan attacked (he did for 3 to 4 secs, then gave up). On the patenberg he was close as well, right before Sagan looked back and put the hammer down again, making the difference equal to what it was at the foot of the Patenberg.

We saw what happened after that.

Again, to even think that Sagan wouldn't drop fabs a like a stone takes some cojones. The strongest rider gave us a fantastic performance and won. Great.

I watch the race again. At the begining Kiato worked by far the most, it looked as he worked for Sagan. Cancellara anwers an Etixx attack and latter try to get agan group. He was cloe but he couldnt, later agan group get almost 40 seconds, just evolder working, and later other team as Kathousa and Astana worked, so the difference drop to 20 second at the begining of Oude Kwaremont. So, at that point, agan didnt worked much more than Cancellara, just a little bit more, and Cancellara attack and get 10 econds to agan in Oude Kwaremont. Cancellara couldnt get Sagan, who ha a little help by Vanmarke while cancellara try to cacth alone...but he cant and an mall group catch him, but nobody help.

In Patenberg Cancellara aceletares again, but Sagan at the same time, drop Vanmarckem who was ahaed of him, in the hardest section, Cancellara catch Vanmarcke at the top, but he was tired and he didnt work till some Km later,

I watched Sagan and Cancellara very similar. See again the race, Sagan even has the help of some people of the breakaway

Your depiction of the race is correct, but don't waste any more words on Pedro. Hopefully his delusion will wear off a little next Sunday when Fabian wins P-R 2016!

 

[Cance > TheRest]

So. . .

What is next now?

Thank god the crash hasn't ruined the rest of the season after a mixed classics campaign, where bad luck and tactics seemed to matter the most. Will it be hunt for wearing the Maglia Rosa on the agenda now? And what about the olympics/worlds TT and RR. Fabian has been without doubt the best time trialist of all this season, after all

 

[sir fly]

The last couple of weeks have carried lots of emotions for Cancellara. It's obvious from the interviews.
My impression is that the sentiments caught him up earlier than they should.
Don't take me wrong, but I'd say he's ridden the cobbles with the feelings he should have watching the races from the retirement.
Shortly, he became melancholic too early.

Great career of a great person.
We'll be missing Cancellara, certainly.

 

[blackmamba]

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The last couple of weeks have carried lots of emotions for Cancellara. It's obvious from the interviews.
My impression is that the sentiments caught him up earlier than they should.
Don't take me wrong, but I'd say he's ridden the cobbles with the feelings he should have watching the races from the retirement.
Shortly, he became melancholic too early.

Great career of a great person.
We'll be missing Cancellara, certainly.

Always rooted for Boonen but Cancellara will always be remembered for me, a true warrior and champion.

One thing is certain the cobble classics wont be ridden in the same way in a very long time when neither Boonen nor Cancellara is there.

All respect, chapeau Cancellara!

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

The last couple of weeks have carried lots of emotions for Cancellara. It's obvious from the interviews.
My impression is that the sentiments caught him up earlier than they should.
Don't take me wrong, but I'd say he's ridden the cobbles with the feelings he should have watching the races from the retirement.
Shortly, he became melancholic too early.

Great career of a great person.
We'll be missing Cancellara, certainly.

Always rooted for Boonen but Cancellara will always be remembered for me, a true warrior and champion.

One thing is certain the cobble classics wont be ridden in the same way in a very long time when neither Boonen nor Cancellara is there.

All respect, chapeau Cancellara!

And I honestly don't like that. Last year we basically already had that situation and the racing was really bad (just compare last years race to this years PR. The action started about 110 kilometers later).
I just can't believe it that this was it. I grew up with Cancellara and Boonen simply being the favorite in every cobbles classic they raced. I didnt watch cycling before their era and there are hardly any rider I rooted more for than for Cancellara (Schleck in 2010 and 2011 was probably the only one) and now that was it. And what makes this even harder to believe is that this final time he rode the classics he just didnt win. He won in TT's and ofc Strade Bianche earlier this year (And since SB is getting a more and more important race his 3rd win their might be a very important record one day) but then in E3 he had bad luck, in GW he lost in a sprint, in RVV he underestimated an attack by Sagan and in his last freakin chance to ever win a monument absolutely everything goes wrong. He will retire after one of his strongest seasons ever but at the end he couldn't even really show his strength. I'm very sad right now and not even the fact that the race today was great can make me happy BECAUSE I DIDNT WATCH THE F***ING RACE GOD DAMNIT

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

The last couple of weeks have carried lots of emotions for Cancellara. It's obvious from the interviews.
My impression is that the sentiments caught him up earlier than they should.
Don't take me wrong, but I'd say he's ridden the cobbles with the feelings he should have watching the races from the retirement.
Shortly, he became melancholic too early.

Great career of a great person.
We'll be missing Cancellara, certainly.

Always rooted for Boonen but Cancellara will always be remembered for me, a true warrior and champion.

One thing is certain the cobble classics wont be ridden in the same way in a very long time when neither Boonen nor Cancellara is there.

All respect, chapeau Cancellara!

And I honestly don't like that. Last year we basically already had that situation and the racing was really bad (just compare last years race to this years PR. The action started about 110 kilometers later).
I just can't believe it that this was it. I grew up with Cancellara and Boonen simply being the favorite in every cobbles classic they raced. I didnt watch cycling before their era and there are hardly any rider I rooted more for than for Cancellara (Schleck in 2010 and 2011 was probably the only one) and now that was it. And what makes this even harder to believe is that this final time he rode the classics he just didnt win. He won in TT's and ofc Strade Bianche earlier this year (And since SB is getting a more and more important race his 3rd win their might be a very important record one day) but then in E3 he had bad luck, in GW he lost in a sprint, in RVV he underestimated an attack by Sagan and in his last freakin chance to ever win a monument absolutely everything goes wrong. He will retire after one of his strongest seasons ever but at the end he couldn't even really show his strength. I'm very sad right now and not even the fact that the race today was great can make me happy BECAUSE I DIDNT WATCH THE F***ING RACE GOD DAMNIT

I'm feeling exactly the same way and for exactly the same reason. Something about this spring campaign just feels so unfulfilled

 

[Gigs_98]

I just saw that as the ultimate punishment for Cancellara god decided to let Mark Cavendish finish higher than him in his last ever cobble classic.

 

[Billie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx_xs7n3sKg

haha the crash on the velodrome that was perfect finish to the day

 

[trevim]

I hope Cancellara just focus on being awesome in the Giro: a couple of italians stage wins would definitely add some class to his palmares

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I hope Cancellara just focus on being awesome in the Giro: a couple of italians stage wins would definitely add some class to his palmares

Well he won't win any TT's in the Tour, so why not? I can't remember if Cancellara even has raced it in his career, it would be super cool to see Canc in Il Giro, but then there also is the Olympics and the Worlds, I think its up in the air, he surely can't race everything.

 

[SafeBet]

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I hope Cancellara just focus on being awesome in the Giro: a couple of italians stage wins would definitely add some class to his palmares

Well he won't win any TT's in the Tour, so why not? I can't remember if Cancellara even has raced it in his career, it would be super cool to see Canc in Il Giro, but then there also is the Olympics and the Worlds, I think its up in the air, he surely can't race everything.

He has raced it a couple of times but never finished it.

 

[RedheadDane]

Really felt for him when he fell! Though I was glad to see him back on the bike, ending his last Paris-Roubaix with a DNF would've been almost too cruel.


What was that about him carrying Popovych?

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Really felt for him when he fell! Though I was glad to see him back on the bike, ending his last Paris-Roubaix with a DNF would've been almost too cruel.


What was that about him carrying Popovych?

Paris-Roubaix was Popo's last race ever.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Paris-Roubaix was Popo's last race ever.

Aw. His career has been hugely underwhelming compared with all the hype back in 2003-2004, but it's still sad to see him go.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

I hope Cancellara just focus on being awesome in the Giro: a couple of italians stage wins would definitely add some class to his palmares

Well he won't win any TT's in the Tour, so why not? I can't remember if Cancellara even has raced it in his career, it would be super cool to see Canc in Il Giro, but then there also is the Olympics and the Worlds, I think its up in the air, he surely can't race everything.

Stage 13 ITT in the tour could be an option, unless ofcourse the climbs on it are too steep?

Don't forget Fabian won a time trial with this profile back in 2013:

 

[RedheadDane]

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Really felt for him when he fell! Though I was glad to see him back on the bike, ending his last Paris-Roubaix with a DNF would've been almost too cruel.


What was that about him carrying Popovych?

Paris-Roubaix was Popo's last race ever.

I know! But Fabian carried him, on his shoulders? He just randomly picked him up and carried him around? Are there any pictures of that?

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

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Really felt for him when he fell! Though I was glad to see him back on the bike, ending his last Paris-Roubaix with a DNF would've been almost too cruel.


What was that about him carrying Popovych?

Paris-Roubaix was Popo's last race ever.

I know! But Fabian carried him, on his shoulders? He just randomly picked him up and carried him around? Are there any pictures of that?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfscaP6WEAAZ42z.jpg

 

[RedheadDane]

Okay... that's brilliant!

 

[Carols]

Re: Re:

Really felt for him when he fell! Though I was glad to see him back on the bike, ending his last Paris-Roubaix with a DNF would've been almost too cruel.


What was that about him carrying Popovych?

Paris-Roubaix was Popo's last race ever.

I know! But Fabian carried him, on his shoulders? He just randomly picked him up and carried him around? Are there any pictures of that?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfscaP6WEAAZ42z.jpg

It wasn't random, they were singing and dancing and celebrating Popo's last race and Fabu's last PR. Having Fun!

 

[Cance > TheRest]

No maglia rosa this time and looking very difficult to achieve for the next stages. For how long will bad luck keep spoiling Fabian's last season?

 

[Forever The Best]

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No maglia rosa this time and looking very difficult to achieve for the next stages. For how long will bad luck keep spoiling Fabian's last season?

Indeed.Terrible luck for Cance

 

[Sciatic]

Anyone have an idea what Canc was aiming to do today? He was the one who kicked off the fireworks--going to the front, putting the hammer down and suddenly the toddling-along peloton is spread out single file with split starting in middle. But when the cam switched from overhead to the front, I saw Sagan and Bodnar at the front and Froome racing across to them, and didn't look for Cancellara.

So what was he up to?
1. Anticipating echelons and wanting to go for stage win? But why did he miss it then?
2. Anticipating echelons and trying to get Mollema in good position, but Mollema got lost?
3. Getting in some high-tempo training for Friday's ITT?
4. Bored?