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Cancellara Thread

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Congrats Fabian! You are a legend!

2 olympic golds + 1 olympic RR silver + 4 TT titles + many Tour wins + 4,567 * 10^37 days in yellow + Suisse + Tirreno + 3 RVV + 3 PR + 1 MSR
You madman!!

SO, SHOULD HE RETIRE TODAY, WITH ALL THE GLORY, OR GO FOR THE FIFTH TT TITLE/ (GOD FORBID) ROAD RACE TITLE?
 
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MacBAir said:
Congrats Fabian! You are a legend!

2 olympic golds + 1 olympic RR silver + 4 TT titles + many Tour wins + 4,567 * 10^37 days in yellow + Suisse + Tirreno + 3 RVV + 3 PR + 1 MSR
You madman!!

SO, SHOULD HE RETIRE TODAY, WITH ALL THE GLORY, OR GO FOR THE FIFTH TT TITLE/ (GOD FORBID) ROAD RACE TITLE?

Go for it....it won't diminish or lessen his final year. If he only podiums, so what....he isn't the king of TT's anymore. If he wins it will be grand.

I'm really glad he got gold today. Rather him than anyone else.
 
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:
 
He wanted one more big victory in his final year. Strade Bianche and a time trial in TdS are nice, but not quite big enough for his standards. In Flanders he made a tactical error, in P-R he crashed. That only left one chance: the Olympic time trial. The course with those small steep climbs was good for him, but he was up against other big names who were also on a mission. He rode two and half weeks of the Tour as preparation, pulled in the penultimate lap of the group race. And then it had to happen... The mark of the true champion: he doesn't disappoint on the big occasions! Cancellara today was truly great. It gives a symmetrical touch to his career: he started as a time trial specialist, evolved into a magnificent classic rider, and now rounds it up with one more major time trial, like in the old days.

Many people were already writing him off, calling him overrated and making hate posts about him. Well, here's your answer. Spartacus is not to be messed with!
 
Gigs_98 said:
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:

That's simply not true. He had bad luck in 2012 and 2015, and well, he was unlucky at MSR (but unlikely to win that anyway), but him being too stupid to follow the one guy he had to mark at RVV and then crashing himself at PR had nothing to do with luck. Unlucky to be caught behind the crash that caused the early split but he still messed up himself too

(And I'm a Canc fan in case you hadn't noticed ;) )
 
PremierAndrew said:
Gigs_98 said:
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:

That's simply not true. He had bad luck in 2012 and 2015, and well, he was unlucky at MSR (but unlikely to win that anyway), but him being too stupid to follow the one guy he had to mark at RVV and then crashing himself at PR had nothing to do with luck. Unlucky to be caught behind the crash that caused the early split but he still messed up himself too

(And I'm a Canc fan in case you hadn't noticed ;) )
I think even if it was a tactical mistake it's always kind of unlucky to not really have a chance to win when you are so strong, but thats something personal, I see your point. Anyway he was unlucky in E3 with a mechanical which cost him his chance to win, in gent welvegem he got cramps on the last kilometers and in the giro he got ill before the ITT, which might have cost him a pink jersey. Moreover PR would have been completely different if he hadn't been unlucky by being caught behind a crash, so I consider this as unlucky too.
 
Gigs_98 said:
PremierAndrew said:
Gigs_98 said:
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:

That's simply not true. He had bad luck in 2012 and 2015, and well, he was unlucky at MSR (but unlikely to win that anyway), but him being too stupid to follow the one guy he had to mark at RVV and then crashing himself at PR had nothing to do with luck. Unlucky to be caught behind the crash that caused the early split but he still messed up himself too

(And I'm a Canc fan in case you hadn't noticed ;) )
I think even if it was a tactical mistake it's always kind of unlucky to not really have a chance to win when you are so strong, but thats something personal, I see your point. Anyway he was unlucky in E3 with a mechanical which cost him his chance to win, in gent welvegem he got cramps on the last kilometers and in the giro he got ill before the ITT, which might have cost him a pink jersey. Moreover PR would have been completely different if he hadn't been unlucky by being caught behind a crash, so I consider this as unlucky too.
Well, apart from Gent-Wevelgem and Ronde Van Vlaanderen, there's no doubt that Fabian's main goals have been influenced by bad luck this year. In any case, I'm actually happy he was unlucky in E3, so we had the pleasure of seeing a determined Spartacus claw back 2 minutes in majestic fashion. Even if he could have won the race without the bad luck, it was a nice reminder of 2011 E3, where he smashed the field despite multiple mechanicals (My personal favourite Fabian moment).
 
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Cance > TheRest said:
Gigs_98 said:
PremierAndrew said:
Gigs_98 said:
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:

That's simply not true. He had bad luck in 2012 and 2015, and well, he was unlucky at MSR (but unlikely to win that anyway), but him being too stupid to follow the one guy he had to mark at RVV and then crashing himself at PR had nothing to do with luck. Unlucky to be caught behind the crash that caused the early split but he still messed up himself too

(And I'm a Canc fan in case you hadn't noticed ;) )
I think even if it was a tactical mistake it's always kind of unlucky to not really have a chance to win when you are so strong, but thats something personal, I see your point. Anyway he was unlucky in E3 with a mechanical which cost him his chance to win, in gent welvegem he got cramps on the last kilometers and in the giro he got ill before the ITT, which might have cost him a pink jersey. Moreover PR would have been completely different if he hadn't been unlucky by being caught behind a crash, so I consider this as unlucky too.
Well, apart from Gent-Wevelgem and Ronde Van Vlaanderen, there's no doubt that Fabian's main goals have been influenced by bad luck this year. In any case, I'm actually happy he was unlucky in E3, so we had the pleasure of seeing a determined Spartacus claw back 2 minutes in majestic fashion. Even if he could have won the race without the bad luck, it was a nice reminder of 2011 E3, where he smashed the field despite multiple mechanicals (My personal favourite Fabian moment).

If you want to talk about bad luck in monuments then spare a thought for Sagan. Unlike Fabian he had a good chance to win MSR if not for Gaviria, and in PR it was Fabian's slide that killed the chase group caught behind that crash.
 
trucido said:
Cance > TheRest said:
Gigs_98 said:
PremierAndrew said:
Gigs_98 said:
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:

That's simply not true. He had bad luck in 2012 and 2015, and well, he was unlucky at MSR (but unlikely to win that anyway), but him being too stupid to follow the one guy he had to mark at RVV and then crashing himself at PR had nothing to do with luck. Unlucky to be caught behind the crash that caused the early split but he still messed up himself too

(And I'm a Canc fan in case you hadn't noticed ;) )
I think even if it was a tactical mistake it's always kind of unlucky to not really have a chance to win when you are so strong, but thats something personal, I see your point. Anyway he was unlucky in E3 with a mechanical which cost him his chance to win, in gent welvegem he got cramps on the last kilometers and in the giro he got ill before the ITT, which might have cost him a pink jersey. Moreover PR would have been completely different if he hadn't been unlucky by being caught behind a crash, so I consider this as unlucky too.
Well, apart from Gent-Wevelgem and Ronde Van Vlaanderen, there's no doubt that Fabian's main goals have been influenced by bad luck this year. In any case, I'm actually happy he was unlucky in E3, so we had the pleasure of seeing a determined Spartacus claw back 2 minutes in majestic fashion. Even if he could have won the race without the bad luck, it was a nice reminder of 2011 E3, where he smashed the field despite multiple mechanicals (My personal favourite Fabian moment).

If you want to talk about bad luck in monuments then spare a thought for Sagan. Unlike Fabian he had a good chance to win MSR if not for Gaviria, and in PR it was Fabian's slide that killed the chase group caught behind that crash.
Yeah, but the difference is that out of 4 WT cobbles races Sagan still won two. Cancellara who seemed to be as good as him won 0. I'm not saying Sagan wasn't unlucky but it's not as bad to be unlucky but still successful as to be unlucky and win nothing.
 
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trucido said:
Cance > TheRest said:
Gigs_98 said:
PremierAndrew said:
Gigs_98 said:
After all the bad luck he has had this year it's just great that he won one last big race. I hope he won't immediately retire and rides some more races. He could try to win the vuelta ITT or he could ride eneco and canadian classics. And then he should ofc. win the WC RR with an attack on the last kilometer and ride one more season because he can't just retire when he has the rainbow jersey. :lol:

That's simply not true. He had bad luck in 2012 and 2015, and well, he was unlucky at MSR (but unlikely to win that anyway), but him being too stupid to follow the one guy he had to mark at RVV and then crashing himself at PR had nothing to do with luck. Unlucky to be caught behind the crash that caused the early split but he still messed up himself too

(And I'm a Canc fan in case you hadn't noticed ;) )
I think even if it was a tactical mistake it's always kind of unlucky to not really have a chance to win when you are so strong, but thats something personal, I see your point. Anyway he was unlucky in E3 with a mechanical which cost him his chance to win, in gent welvegem he got cramps on the last kilometers and in the giro he got ill before the ITT, which might have cost him a pink jersey. Moreover PR would have been completely different if he hadn't been unlucky by being caught behind a crash, so I consider this as unlucky too.
Well, apart from Gent-Wevelgem and Ronde Van Vlaanderen, there's no doubt that Fabian's main goals have been influenced by bad luck this year. In any case, I'm actually happy he was unlucky in E3, so we had the pleasure of seeing a determined Spartacus claw back 2 minutes in majestic fashion. Even if he could have won the race without the bad luck, it was a nice reminder of 2011 E3, where he smashed the field despite multiple mechanicals (My personal favourite Fabian moment).

If you want to talk about bad luck in monuments then spare a thought for Sagan. Unlike Fabian he had a good chance to win MSR if not for Gaviria, and in PR it was Fabian's slide that killed the chase group caught behind that crash.

But Cancellara was driving that chase group. If he had been better positioned early on, there's no way Sagan would have been as close as he was to getting back on. Thus Cance's bad luck in crashing seems worse than Sagan in being caught behind that crash.
 
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Cannibal72 said:
But Cancellara was driving that chase group. If he had been better positioned early on, there's no way Sagan would have been as close as he was to getting back on. Thus Cance's bad luck in crashing seems worse than Sagan in being caught behind that crash.

Sagan's bad luck was getting caught behind the crash and losing Fabian as an ally to close the gap. Fabian's was getting caught behind the crash and sliding out, though you could argue the later was his fault.

They were both unlucky to varying degrees.
 
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He just now (15:50 CET) gave a brilliant, articulate 3-4 minute live interview on CNN World Sport. It was so good that I'm sure CNN will post it on their site.
 
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As much as I would like to see Fabian ride the spring classics, I think he's done. He could probably win for another few years, but why would he? Relax with millions, or train constantly each day hoping to become a shell of your former self. Seems like an easy choice.