Giro d'Italia Stage 16: San Vigilio di Marebbe - Kronplatz (ITT) 12.9km

[Mellow Velo]

@mellow velo: the profile isn't wrong, it takes the average % of 1 full km

Not even the 45% part lasts 1km it lasts maybe 50 meters

@DT. I know. I was joking.
Why do I always feel I'm getting the finger, when I read your posts? (thats not to be taken seriously either, just in case)

 

[jens_attacks]

it will be between evans and vino.sastre will lose more than 1:30.can't wait.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Am I Missing something?

This is the stage when the absence of Pellizotti will be felt most.

Nibali can't pretend to take his place on the Kronplatz.

 

[sportzchick]

This is the stage when the absence of Pellizotti will be felt most.

Nibali can't pretend to take his place on the Kronplatz.

true but Nibali can do enough work before the big mountain to keep Basso fresh

Cadel or Vino dont have that

 

[benpounder]

Most riders will be flying up that last km at.........ooooh...........200 metres a minute!

Anyone seen a forcast? That 'road' gets mighty sketchy if damp. (Ricco was spinning his wheels last time on dry road.)

 

[auscyclefan94]

Going to look for a forecast now!

 

[theyoungest]

true but Nibali can do enough work before the big mountain to keep Basso fresh

Cadel or Vino dont have that

WTF are you talking about? This is an ITT, remember?

Apart from the fact that Nibali hasn't done much work for Basso, so far.

 

[Night Rider]

I think a close call between Basso and Evans, which basically means Basso will win the Giro now.

Vino might be an upset for the Kronplatz win though, rest days can sometimes sway what would normally be an easy pick.

 

[RedZone]

When Evans was finally dropped by Basso and had to set his own pace he lost quite a bit of time and was almost caught by Scarponi. Cunego did a very good ride too going past Vino and Sastre, as always, couldn't handle the early pace but rode brilliantly to minimize losses.

Not sure thats a good example, considering Cadel killed himself trying to hang on to Basso and by the time he was on his own Evans was cooked. Scarponi was a little smarter and knew he couldnt keep up so just did an ITT at his own pace. (He gave an interview saying if you go into the red on this climb youre in big trouble). I think Cadel did quite well after he was dropped because he looked in absolute agony, the fact he lost time to Scarponi isntreally that telling.

This being said I think Evans has targeted this stage as one he can win, and personally I think he will do it.

Evans
Basso +15
Sastre/Nibali +30
Scarponi/Vino +45
Cunego +1:00

 

[cineteq]

probably Basso because he likes it steep

That's not enough.

 

[cineteq]

Evans
Nibali @ 1:21
Vinokourov @ 1:54
Basso @ 2:03
Sastre @ 2:37

 

[Kender]

of all the GC contenders, Evans has done by far the most work in the giro to date. If the rest day allows him to recover a bit he's going to be tough to contain for the rest of the giro

climb isn't as steep as zonc for this ITT so i'm going to say evans will tractor his way to the win

 

[blaxland]

My Predictions in no particular order Evans,Basso and Cunego.....The rest Nibali,Vino,Sastre and Arroyo will loose minutes .......Porte will surprise everyone and finish top 10 on stage...Thus securing the white jersy....Who was the last rider to win the white jersey in there first GT?Can anyone answer that?

 

[Ripper]

Tomorrow is going to be a great one to watch, and this week should be pretty exciting. Looking forward to more excellent racing.

 

[hughmoore]

Weather looks good, Is the start order opposite GC position. What is the start Gap between riders, 2 mins?


Hugh

 

[Poppert]

Weather looks good, Is the start order opposite GC position. What is the start Gap between riders, 2 mins?


Hugh

And another question for you experts ;-) :
- Is there no time bonus on this stage? And,
- Will they race with TT bikes or regular ones.

 

[Cerberus]

My Predictions in no particular order Evans,Basso and Cunego.....The rest Nibali,Vino,Sastre and Arroyo will loose minutes .......Porte will surprise everyone and finish top 10 on stage...Thus securing the white jersy....Who was the last rider to win the white jersey in there first GT?Can anyone answer that?

Not that unusual I think. The true contenders often do really, really well even in their first GT. Andy Schleck won the white it in his first GT (also the Giro) and finished 2nd in the overall.

 

[Sasquatch]

And another question for you experts ;-) :
- Is there no time bonus on this stage? And,
- Will they race with TT bikes or regular ones.

Most definately regular.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Some answers:

1. The riders are being sent off in three groups. The first group starts at 10:30, with the riders leaving at one minute intervals. The second group at 12:50, ditto. The thrid group at 15:10, with the top 15 riders going at three-minute intervals.

2. They are in reverse order of GC, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the exact order. I haven't compared the start list to the GC.

3. Considering the course, it seems highly unlikely a time trial bike would be of any use.

4. No bonus seconds are ever given in a time trial.

5. We are starting our live coverage at about 12:40 CET. (OK, so nobody asked that one.....)

Susan

 

[theswordsman]

There are big gaps in the series. I guess it has to do with logistics and getting vehicles back to the start, or maybe for the TV coverage?

SERIE 1
10:30 Marco Frapporti (Colnago)
10:31 Marco Corti (Footon)
10:32 Cameron Meyer (Garmin-Transitions)
10:33 Stefano Pirazzi (Colnago)
10:34 Gabriel Rasch (Cervélo)
10:35 Damien Gaudin (Bouygues)
10:36 Mikhail Ignatiev (Katusha)
10:37 Rick Flens (Rabobank)
10:38 Frantisek Rabon (Team HTC-Columbia)
10:39 Dario Andriotto (Acqua e Sapone)
10:40 Christopher Sutton (Sky)
10:41 Michael Morkov (Saxo Bank)
10:42 Alessandro Spezialetti (Lampre)
10:43 Graeme Brown (Rabobank)
10:44 Marcel Sieberg (Team HTC-Columbia)
10:45 Maciej Bodnar (Liquigas)
10:46 Sven Tuft (Garmin-Transitions)
10:47 Michael Albasini (Team HTC-Columbia)
10:48 Anddy Engels (Rabobank)
10:49 Lucas Haedo (Saxo Bank)
10:50 Julian Dean (Garmin-Transitions)
10:51 Ignatas Konovalovas (Cervélo)
10:52 Mathieu Claude (Bouygues)
10:53 Vicente Reynes (Team HTC-Columbia)
10:54 Luke Roberts (Milram)
10:55 Michael Schär (BMC)
10:56 Mauro Facci (Quick Step)
10:57 Olivier Kaisen (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
10:58 Ermanno Capelli (Footon)
10:59 Edward King (Cervélo)
11:00 Alessandro Bertolini (Androni)
11:01 Julien Fouchard (Cofidis)
11:02 Yukiya Arashiro (Bouygues)
11:03 Nico Sijmens (Cofidis)
11:04 Pablo Lastras (Caisse d'Epargne)
11:05 Jos Van Emden (Rabobank)
11:06 Danilo Wyss (BMC)
11:07 Murilo Fischer (Garmin-Transitions)
11:08 Guillaume Le Floch (Bouygues)
11:09 Michiel Elijzien (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
11:10 Matthias Brandle (Footon)
11:11 Markus Fothen (Milram)
11:12 Francesco Reda
11:13 André Greipel (Team HTC-Columbia)
11:14 Fabio Sabatini (Liquigas)
11:15 Alan Marangoni (Colnago)
11:16 Tom Stamsnijder (Rabobank)
11:17 Daniel Lloyd (Cervélo)
11:18 Marco Velo (Quick Step)
11:19 Marco Marzano (Lampre)
11:20 Brent Bookwalter (BMC)
11:21 Damien Monier (Cofidis)
11:22 Mathew Hayman (Rabobank)

SERIE 2
12.50 Kalle Kriit (Cofidis)
12:51 Simone Stortoni (Colnago)
12:52 Sebastien Hinault (AG2R)
12:53 Leonardo Bertagnolli (Androni)
12:54 Christopher Froome (Sky)
12:55 Goraz Stangelj (Astana)
12:56 Danilo Hondo (Lampre)
12:57 Mickael Buffaz (Cofidis)
12:58 Yuriy Krivtsov (AG2R)
12:59 David Loosli (Lampre)
13:00 Iñigo Cuesta (Cervélo)
13.01 Robert Forster (Milram)
13.02 Gilberto Simoni (Lampre)
13:03 Florian Stalder (BMC)
13:04 Roman Kireyev (Astana)
13:05 Tiziano Dall'Antonia (Liquigas)
13:06 Serguei Klimov (Katusha)
13:07 Craig Lewis (Team HTC-Columbia)
13:08 Cameron Wurf (Androni)
13:09 Anders Lund (Saxo Bank)
13:10 Federico Canuti (Colnago)
13:11 Matteo Bono (Lampre)
13:12 Luca Mazzanti (Katusha)
13:13 Remi Cusin (Cofidis)
13:14 Greg Henderson (Sky)
13:15 Leonardo Duque (Cofidis)
13:16 Nicki Sorensen (Saxo Bank)
13:17 Daniele Righi (Lampre)
13:18 Matthias Russ (Milram)
13:19 Sylvester Szmyd (Liquigas)
13:20 William Bonnet (Bouygues)
13:21 Alessandro Vanotti (Liquigas)
13:22 Xabier Zandio (Caisse d'Epargne)
13:23 Matthew Lloyd (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
13:24 Volodymir Gustov (Cervélo)
13:25 David Moncoutie (Cofidis)
13:26 Alessandro Donati (Acqua e Sapone)
13:27 Alessandro Bisolti (Colnago)
13:28 Cayetano Sarmiento (Acqua e Sapone)
13:29 Sebastian Lang (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
13:30 Markus Eibegger (Footon)
13:31 Rubens Bertogliati (Androni)
13:32 Ludovic Turpin (AG2R)
13:33 Carlos Ochoa (Androni)
13:34 Arnold Jeannesson (Caisse d'Epargne)
13:35 Gustav Larsson (Saxo Bank)
13:36 Francesco Failli (Acqua e Sapone)
13:37 Steven Cummings (Sky)
13:38 Matteo Tosatto (Quick Step)
13:39 Andriy Grivko (Astana)
13.40 Alberto Losada (Caisse d'Epargne)
13:41 Jackson Rodríguez (Androni)

SERIE 3
15:10 Vasil Kiryienka (Caisse d'Epargne)
15:11 Daniel Martin (Garmin-Transitions)
15:12 Marcel Wyss (Cervélo)
15:13 Massimo Codol (Acqua e Sapone)
15:14 Andrei Amador (Caisse d'Epargne)
15:15 Michael Barry (Sky)
15:16 Josep Jufre (Astana)
15:17 Jerome Pineau (Quick Step)
15:18 Filippo Pozzato (Katusha)
15:19 Joan Horrach (Katusha)
15:20 Charles Wegelius (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
15:21 Giampaolo Caruso (Katusha)
15:22 Johann Tschopp (Bouygues)
15:23 Branislau Samoilau (Quick Step)
15:24 Yuri Trofimov (Bouygues)
15:25 Daniel Moreno (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
15:26 Thomas Voeckler (Bouygues)
15:27 Rigoberto Urán (Caisse d'Epargne)
15:28 Vladimir Miholjevic (Liquigas)
15.29 José Serpa (Androni)
15:30 Laurent Didier (Saxo Bank)
15:31 Steven Kruijswijk (Rabobank)
15:32 Chris Sorensen (Saxo Bank)
15:33 Evgeni Petrov (Katusha)
15:34 Jan Bakelants (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
15:35 Pieter Weening (Rabobank)
15:36 Hubert Dupont (AG2R)
15:37 Iban Mayoz (Footon)
15:38 Stefano Garzelli (Acqua e Sapone)
15:39 Bradley Wiggins (Sky)
15:40 Francis De Greef (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
15:41 Xavier Tondo (Cervélo)
15:42 Valerio Agnoli (Liquigas)
15:43 Dario Cioni (Sky)
15:44 John Gadret (AG2R)
15:45 Mauricio Ardila (Rabobank)
15:46 Alexander Efimkin (AG2R)
15:49 Dario Cataldo (Quick Step)
15:52 Bauke Mollema (Rabobank)
15:55 Vladimir Karpets (Katusha)
15:58 Marco Pinotti (Team HTC-Columbia)
16:01 Damiano Cunego (Lampre)
16:04 Robert Kiserlovski (Liquigas)
16:07 Linus Gerdemann (Milram)
16:10 Michele Scarponi (Acqua e Sapone)
16:13 Vincenzo Nibali (Liquigas)
16:16 Alexandre Vinokourov (Astana)
16:19 Cadel Evans (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
16:22 Carlos Sastre (Cervélo)
16:25 Ivan Basso (Liquigas)
16:28 Richie Porte (Saxo Bank)
16:31 David Arroyo (Caisse d'Epargne)

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=26652

 

[BroDeal]

I am going with Evans for the win. It is no where near as steep as the Zoncolan, so I think he will do better here. The essense of time trials is pacing to get the most out of your body over the given distance. Evans is good at that. Thow in a little dirt, and the route is good for him.

 

[Anonymous]

Wiggins has had two days off... so erm.. well, somebody has to say wiggins, it might as well be me.

 

[theswordsman]

Wiggins has had two days off... so erm.. well, somebody has to say wiggins, it might as well be me.

Sean Kelly said that Wiggins is successfully training through the race for the Tour de France, and so he's picking the days when he has to work hard and the ones when he doesn't. If he's right, then this could be a shorter duration, higher quality training day. Or not. But Kelly says it's better for his Tour chances that he's not good now.

http://www.sportinglife.com/story_g...ling/10/05/25/CYCLING_Giro_dItalia_Kelly.html

 

[Pantani_lives]

The Kronplatz is very much comparable to the Zoncolan, so I think Basso, Evans ans Scarponi will be the top three again, probably in that order. If Basso extends his advantage on Evans today, he will be the big favorite for the final victory.

 

[Jamsque]

Sean Kelly said that Wiggins is successfully training through the race for the Tour de France, and so he's picking the days when he has to work hard and the ones when he doesn't. If he's right, then this could be a shorter duration, higher quality training day. Or not. But Kelly says it's better for his Tour chances that he's not good now.

http://www.sportinglife.com/story_g...ling/10/05/25/CYCLING_Giro_dItalia_Kelly.html

I'd like to believe him, but I have to say I've been disappointed with Wiggins this Giro. His prologue win was great, as was his single attack in the mountains, but I was really hoping to see a glimpse of the kind of climbing form he will need to mix it with Contador and the Schlecks this July, and he hasn't shown it.

I don't think his fourth last year was a fluke, but I think with this year's parcours he will struggle to beat it.