Johan gets served

[mewmewmew13]

Yesterday, my reporter friend did march up to the RadioShack PR people and ask specifically "where in the world is Johan Bruyneel?" My guess is that the answer (and circumstances involving their answer) is "complicated".

Seriously, I've gone to two different media people now (media people involved in the event). Not only can I not get an answer to the question, it's like an alien spacecraft went down at Area-51. The question itself seemed to disappear.

Johan caught in a tractor beam! No evidence remains ..

 

[thehog]

But we need to know whether the "Good" feds are investigating Johan or whether the "Influenced" feds are investigating Johan. Makes all the difference!

This is Johan thread. You should post your question on the Armstrong talking points thread. Someone might respond.

I’m thinking how does Johan get himself out of the country without perjuring himself? Lance says he’s not talking about doping anymore so we won’t get much out of him. Radioshack don’t want to clarify the situation but must they must be worried about the fallout. The Tour is over for Bruyneel. He won’t be in France.

This is a very serious matter. I hope he has the right representation and is being advised accordingly. It would be a confusing time. He probably doesn’t know who to trust at this point.

 

[MarkvW]

This is Johan thread. You should post your question on the Armstrong talking points thread. Someone might respond.

I’m thinking how does Johan get himself out of the country without perjuring himself? Lance says he’s not talking about doping anymore so we won’t get much out of him. Radioshack don’t want to clarify the situation but must they must be worried about the fallout. The Tour is over for Bruyneel. He won’t be in France.

This is a very serious matter. I hope he has the right representation and is being advised accordingly. It would be a confusing time. He probably doesn’t know who to trust at this point.

But is Johan really at risk? If he is being pursued by the Fabiani-Influenced-Feds, then isn't he relatively safe?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Yesterday, my reporter friend did march up to the RadioShack PR people and ask specifically "where in the world is Johan Bruyneel?" My guess is that the answer (and circumstances involving their answer) is "complicated".

Seriously, I've gone to two different media people now (media people involved in the event). Not only can I not get an answer to the question, it's like an alien spacecraft went down at Area-51. The question itself seemed to disappear.

Yes it is crazy! The fact that a somple question of where is daHog can't be answered with a simple...he is on the bus but will not take questions or he is on the throne right now, or he is droping the kids off at splash town etc.

Even the media can't ask simple questions.

 

[sniper]

Everyone knows that Johan was just in town to get the keys to his new team vehicle:

the weirdest of things just happened. I looked for "Uncle Pat" images, and amongst many other things this came rolling out:

but I couldn't find out to what website it belongs. mysteriously, the link to the image has the word "flickr" in it....
does that ring any bells?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

This is Johan thread. You should post your question on the Armstrong talking points thread. Someone might respond.

I’m thinking how does Johan get himself out of the country without perjuring himself? Lance says he’s not talking about doping anymore so we won’t get much out of him. Radioshack don’t want to clarify the situation but must they must be worried about the fallout. The Tour is over for Bruyneel. He won’t be in France.

This is a very serious matter. I hope he has the right representation and is being advised accordingly. It would be a confusing time. He probably doesn’t know who to trust at this point.

How do you know the seriousness of the matter? Seriously…without getting all caught up in the multiple vortex’s that are spinning out of control.

 

[BotanyBay]

the weirdest of things just happened. I looked for "Uncle Pat" images, and amongst many other things this came rolling out:

but I couldn't find out to what website it belongs. mysteriously, the link to the image has the word "flickr" in it....
does that ring any bells?

I created it with an online tool (says-it.com), downloaded and pasted it into Photoshop, uploaded it to tinypic.com (where the image is hosted).

Scariest because someone would have had to TAG IT with the search term "Uncle" in order for this to be relevant. Clearly, someone has tagged this image with that word.

I suspect that Google's scary search algorhythm has to do with why this image came up in your search. They probably knew where you'd been visiting lately, compared to what you were looking for, and deducted (properly) that this might be something that would interest you.

If you fear anything on Earth, fear Google.

 

[steelciocc]

the weirdest of things just happened. I looked for "Uncle Pat" images, and amongst many other things this came rolling out:

but I couldn't find out to what website it belongs. mysteriously, the link to the image has the word "flickr" in it....
does that ring any bells?

It's from BSNYC...

 

[thehog]

How do you know the seriousness of the matter? Seriously…without getting all caught up in the multiple vortex’s that are spinning out of control.

Doesn’t matter what I think.

If you stepped off a plane and were met by Federal agents you wouldn't consider that serious?

Seriously it’s not serious?

 

[BotanyBay]

Yes it is crazy! The fact that a somple question of where is daHog can't be answered with a simple...he is on the bus but will not take questions or he is on the throne right now, or he is droping the kids off at splash town etc.

Even the media can't ask simple questions.

Any questions about the current existence of Johan are vanishing into a vortex.

 

[BotanyBay]

Doesn’t matter what I think.

If you stepped off a plane and were met by Federal agents you wouldn't consider that serious?

Seriously it’s not serious?

A single report by an anonymous source on ONE WEBSITE (and later repeated in the media) by itself makes me curious, but not particularly alarmed.

However, combine it with no one else seeing the man in 6 days while AToC and the Giro is going on and I'm more inclined to believe something's up.

 

[Polish]

A single report by an anonymous source on ONE WEBSITE (and later repeated in the media) by itself makes me curious, but not particularly alarmed.

However, combine it with no one else seeing the man in 6 days while AToC and the Giro is going on and I'm more inclined to believe something's up.

A couple things BB...

First of all, Bikes Belong is a LOT more important than the Amgen Tour of California. Get your priorities in order please.

Second, Johan knows if he steps out of the bus - he will be swarmed. Fans start asking "What the heck is going on over there?". 'Didn't you hear - Bruyneel been arrested" "House arrest" And all that other tinhat blabble blubble.

Stroke of tactical/stratigic genius to saty out of the spotlight. For AToC's sake at least. I'm sure the Feds appreciate it too. They have already learned the hard way that leaks sink ships. Even clean ships that should not have been sunk.

 

[JRTinMA]

In the beginning, Race Radio's analysis was this: "I have never said imminent. It will be years before Armstrong's lawyers have bled him of his cash and he goes to prison."

Then, about three months ago, Race Radio was talking about Lance Armstrong getting off because of "Borat," "expediency," "the way things are done" and "influence," all involving the federal government.

Now, Race Radio is pushing the position that there is a federal investigation and "Lance and his buddies are in trouble."

What facts prompted Race Radio's change from "prison" to "expediency?" Only two little snippets: (1) Mr. Birotte terminated an investigation that was conducted by his office; and (2) an unknown source reported that the investigators thought they had a lot of evidence and they were blindsided by Birotte's decision.

What facts prompted Race Radio's second change from "expediency" to "Lance is in trouble?" Only one thing: Johan Bruyneel was served with papers by people who may have been federal agents at a San Francisco Airport.

Race Radio is good at being a half-step or more ahead of some of the reports that we are seeing in the media, but his analysis of federal motivation has radically changed over time on the basis of the most flimsy "evidence."

For the snarky response and the fanboy accusation I am about to receive, I salute you!

You pretty much made my point thank you. He certainly has the insider info but lacks the bandwidth to make a reasoned opinion.

 

[mewmewmew13]

A single report by an anonymous source on ONE WEBSITE (and later repeated in the media) by itself makes me curious, but not particularly alarmed.

However, combine it with no one else seeing the man in 6 days while AToC and the Giro is going on and I'm more inclined to believe something's up.

exactly.
We should have expected some photo ops with Lance, some media coverage from RSNT and sponsors...Johan tweeting about his team..normal kinds of DS things...TOTAL VOID.

Those who believe Johan was not served might try to come up with a reasonable explanation for the current turn of events. I sure can't..

 

[Hugh Januss]

A couple things BB...

First of all, Bikes Belong is a LOT more important than the Amgen Tour of California. Get your priorities in order please.

Second, Johan knows if he steps out of the bus - he will be swarmed. Fans start asking "What the heck is going on over there?". 'Didn't you hear - Bruyneel been arrested" "House arrest" And all that other tinhat blabble blubble.

Stroke of tactical/stratigic genius to saty out of the spotlight. For AToC's sake at least. I'm sure the Feds appreciate it too. They have already learned the hard way that leaks sink ships. Even clean ships that should not have been sunk.

Polish once again finds the silver lining in the dungheap.

 

[Race Radio]

You pretty much made my point thank you. He certainly has the insider info but lacks the bandwidth to make a reasoned opinion.

Yet you are unable to give an example....

 

[mewmewmew13]

Don't know if this new toto has been posted yet....

http://nyvelocity.com/content/toto/2012/toto-turns-256

 

[MarkvW]

exactly.
We should have expected some photo ops with Lance, some media coverage from RSNT and sponsors...Johan tweeting about his team..normal kinds of DS things...TOTAL VOID.

Those who believe Johan was not served might try to come up with a reasonable explanation for the current turn of events. I sure can't..

I don't think Lance can, either. That's the great part of this.

It's like the movie "Alien." Ripley has killed the horrific alien on the ship, then she retires to the safety of the shuttle and prepares to enter stasis . . .

 

[thehog]

I don't think Lance can, either. That's the great part of this.

It's like the movie "Alien." Ripley has killed the horrific alien on the ship, then she retires to the safety of the shuttle and prepares to enter stasis . . .

This is the Johan thread not Alien the movie thread. Please post on another forum.

Getting back to Johan. If he can’t contact Lance then I understand why he’s hiding in the bus with nowhere to go. He needs to sit down with his lawyers and work out a plan but they may not be in this country. I assume he’d want to contact Lance to get the story straight but that wouldn’t be advisable. I know he and his team and multiple cells phones back in the day but they’d be tracking Johan’s cell if he’s roaming from a UK mobile.

Best he backs away from Lance and works on his own plan to save himself.

 

[BotanyBay]

You pretty much made my point thank you. He certainly has the insider info but lacks the bandwidth to make a reasoned opinion.

Dude gives you incredible, accurate DATA 99.9% of the time (data you can't get anywhere else), yet you're busting his balls over opinion?

 

[thehog]

Dude gives you incredible, accurate DATA 99.9% of the time (data you can't get anywhere else), yet you're busting his balls over opinion?

I think that’s the frustrating part for him. It’s not what he wants to hear.

 

[Race Radio]

Who is Johan more afraid of, Lance or the Feds?

 

[BotanyBay]

I think that’s the frustrating part for him. It’s not what he wants to hear.

Race Radio could screw-up 25 major opinions, and I'd still give him immunity for the incredibly accurate, advance useful data he brings to the table. The guy knows some people. Obviously he has quite the rolodex.

 

[thehog]

Who is Johan more afraid of, Lance or the Feds?

Lance can’t offer him much. I’d say pony up. Tell the full story. Lance can defend himself. The Feds can make your life harder than Lance ever could.

 

[scribe]

Who is Johan more afraid of, Lance or the Feds?

Are you in here setting guys up again to break their hearts? Johan will deny anything and everything and go on his merry way.