Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

I'm not a Pog hater. I was over the mon when he beat Visma/Rogla in 2020, I had just praises for his Flanders wins and the wild world championships and I wanted him to win Roubaix. but now I'd like more competition in grand tours, so I side for Visma and Jonas. and the haters made me an Ayuso fan.

Do you think Ayuso is right?

 

[pastronef]

Do you think Ayuso is right?

no, he's not right. but I don't care. the sudden hate and obsession of some Pog fans, and of many Spanish and Portuguese haters immediately made me cheer for him, right or wrong.

 

[noob]

There is much more for sure. If you see the comments, Matxin is applauding. I'm pretty sure this is a problem with Gianetti (and other teammates).

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I've read comments for 10 minutes and yet have to come to Matxin applauding so I'd rather you just copy or say who wrote them

 

[pastronef]

his stance, his ways are wrong. ok. but *** sake having tweeps and posters act like judges on their high horses. I preferred ten years ago when it was just sheer hate and vitriol "just because Sky existed" without any "justice" or "loyalty" being claimed important.

 

[Peyroteo94]

no, he's not right. but I don't care. the sudden hate and obsession of some Pog fans, and of many Spanish and Portuguese haters immediately made me cheer for him, right or wrong.

First: at least you can acknowledge he is wrong. So you don't defend him thinking he is right. You defend him becauae you kinda feel sorry for him. It's different.

Second: you know Ayuso is the "villain" but you still support him because the vast majority of people (rightly) are criticizing him? Good to know. You also support criminals when they commit a crime?

 

[iBanesto]

Hinault attacked LeMond to help him win the TdF in 1986.

Ayuso sits with sprinters for Almedia to help him win the Vuelta. Sacrificing his GC to sit with sprinters on mountain stages to make sure they don't close on Almeida obviously.

 

[pastronef]

First: at least you can acknowledge he is wrong. So you don't defend him thinking he is right. You defend him becauae you kinda feel sorry for him. It's different.

Second: you know Ayuso is the "villain" but you still support him because the vast majority of people (rightly) are criticizing him? Good to know. You also support criminals when they commit a crime?

I support Ayuso BECAUSE OF SENTENCES LIKE THOSE. I absolutely support him cause you and others talk to me and to him from you rightful, just, fair and warm and fuzzy place and lo and behold how dared he! I CHEER FOR HIM BECAUSE OF THAT
"do you also support criminals yadda yadda". WTF WTF. WHATTTHEUTTERFAAK!!!

are you aware you put "criminals" and "Ayuso" in the same phrase?

half a minute ago I was less of a fan of Ayuso than I am now after you post. just because. I'm a straight edge Ayuso fan, me parto el culo

 

[SafeBet]

Second: you know Ayuso is the "villain" but you still support him because the vast majority of people (rightly) are criticizing him? Good to know. You also support criminals when they commit a crime?

Don't know if that counts, but I supported Moreno Moser when he stole my heart a dozen years ago.

 

[noob]

@Peyroteo94 I really want to read the comments Matxin liked. I am not ironic, I'm just curious. I've said way before tdf last year that there has to be a conflict between different DS in the team.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I support Ayuso BECAUSE OF SENTENCES LIKE THOSE. I absolutely support him cause you and others talk to me and to him from you rightful, just, fair and warm and fuzzy place and lo and behold how dared he! I CHEER FOR HIM BECAUSE OF THAT
fuccking "do you also support criminals yadda yadda". WTF WTF. WHATTTHEUTTERFAAK!!!

half a minute ago I was less of a fan of Ayuso than I am now after you post

Keep supporting him, you will give you a lot of good memories and entertainment.
With Ayuso we learned:
1 - How to fake an illness
2 - How to fake weakness
3 -How to be disloyal

Are you a fan even more? I hope so!

 

[Peyroteo94]

@Peyroteo94 I really want to read the comments Matxin liked. I am not ironic, I'm just curious. I've said way before tdf last year that there has to be a conflict between different DS in the team.

He didn't put any like. He put the emoji of hands clapping.

 

[pastronef]

Keep supporting him, you will give you a lot of good memories and entertainment.
With Ayuso we learned:
1 - How to fake an illness
2 - How to fake weakness
3 -How to be disloyal

Are you a fan even more? I hope so!

I don't care. we are nicknames of a forum here. it's fun. I'd have probably been pissed in 1995 when I was a teenager Indurain fan if a teammate didn't help him. now, 30 years on, I can't be angry about sport people I see on tv. but I warm to riders that create controversies (dear me I was a Froome and Wiggo fan eh!)

 

[noob]

He didn't put any like. He put the emoji of hands clapping.

Thanks. So now what comments are they? I'm really trying to find them and it's not the easiest thing to do when Spanish ain't ones first language

 

[noob]

Thanks. So now what comments are they? I'm really trying to find them and it's not the easiest thing to do when Spanish ain't ones first language

Do you mean he's hand clapping the post in itself, not comments in there? Because that I've already seen

 

[Tim Cahill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1962826063463010673

“No entiendo por qué el UAE hizo el comunicado sin avisar. Quieren dañar mi imagen. He sufrido una falta de respeto tras otra por parte de la dirección del equipo. Ha sido una dictadura”

“I don’t understand why UAE issued the statement without warning. They want to damage my image. I’ve suffered one disrespect after another from the team’s management. It’s been a dictatorship”

Translation so I've included the original Spanish

It's all great stuff, it really is

 

[Peyroteo94]

Do you mean he's hand clapping the post in itself, not comments in there? Because that I've already seen

This mate. Eheheh, english is not my native language (even if I went back and can't find another way to say it).

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1962826063463010673

“No entiendo por qué el UAE hizo el comunicado sin avisar. Quieren dañar mi imagen. He sufrido una falta de respeto tras otra por parte de la dirección del equipo. Ha sido una dictadura”

“I don’t understand why UAE issued the statement without warning. They want to damage my image. I’ve suffered one disrespect after another from the team’s management. It’s been a dictatorship”

Translation so I've included the original Spanish

It's all great stuff, it really is

This is clearly a problem with Gianetti.

 

[Netserk]

“I don’t understand why UAE issued the statement without warning. They want to damage my image. I’ve suffered one disrespect after another from the team’s management. It’s been a dictatorship”

If he feels the boot here, he should try riding for Vino.

 

[SafeBet]

If he feels the boot here, he should try riding for Vino.

I swear I read Vingo and thought you meant the next couple of weeks.

 

[hrotha]

I support Ayuso BECAUSE OF SENTENCES LIKE THOSE. I absolutely support him cause you and others talk to me and to him from you rightful, just, fair and warm and fuzzy place and lo and behold how dared he! I CHEER FOR HIM BECAUSE OF THAT
"do you also support criminals yadda yadda". WTF WTF. WHATTTHEUTTERFAAK!!!

Pro tip: you can make fun of that kind of post while simultaneously making fun of Ayuso. You don't need to pick a side all the time

 

[Tim Cahill]

If he feels the boot here, he should try riding for Vino.

UAE seems like one of the less regimented teams tbf, almost anywhere else he's going to have problems. I'd love to see him turn out for one of those elderly provincial French managers myself, who make their riders wear GPS's and get on the phone to bark at them when they stop for a coffee during a training ride. Cofidis it is.

 

[pastronef]

Pro tip: you can make fun of that kind of post while simultaneously making fun of Ayuso. You don't need to pick a side all the time

I said Ayuso is wrong. and some posts and jokes are great. some though react as if he banged their wives. that's what makes me sympathetic with him. I also know he could totally fail at Trek. well, I'll get what might come

 

[Tim Cahill]

If they did release the statement without warning about someone who was already a ticking time bomb then heads should roll, what did they expect him to say? I'm staggered he hasn't been sent home, this is just going to drag on and on the longer he stays. I expect an abandon on the second rest day to prepare for worlds, which should be amusing.

 

[Lequack]

Even Patrick an Benji made an emergency podcast

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fuo7PAUs6I

 

[noob]

If they did release the statement without warning about someone who was already a ticking time bomb then heads should roll, what did they expect him to say? I'm staggered he hasn't been sent home, this is just going to drag on and on the longer he stays. I expect an abandon on the second rest day to prepare for worlds, which should be amusing.

Even Patrick an Benji made an emergency podcast

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fuo7PAUs6I

I did add this above. Broe had legal perspectives on this and he thinks the desicion was new.