Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[thehog]

har har har

He also can't remember whether he was or wasn't found positive in '99. Selective memory on that one fateful day.

Brain surgery tends to make people forget things.

I think he'll skate on that one.

But the donation to the hospital and to Nicolas will bring him back to the cross hairs again. Now that's a conspiracy!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Martin it is indeed although Hitler never backtracked. (Only the Italian army!)

I did think it was rather brave of Hein to madly declare Lance was a liar. Only a rousing speech from Churchill can save us now.

I think Armstrong's best defense here is to say although doping was against the rules that the UCI "allowed" doping. That being the case then no rules were broken thus no fraud.

To do this he'll need to dish the dirt.

Hein v Lance will be a mighty battle!

Yes. close quarter combat like the battle of stalingrad with no mercies shown to the public (here others) by either side.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

On the contrary, he's an excellent liar. He particularly knows when a lie doesn't have wings - Lance would have kept that crap going while the world laughed, Hein, kung fu liemaster thta he is, is already changing position, ready for attack. Frankly, Hein's lies are roughly equal to a roundhouse kick from Chuck Norris...

agree, Hein will be difficult to take down. A greedy salesman determined to continue to make money. Good at it too.

 

[D-Queued]

So, Armstrong can't remember the bedside confessional with Frankie and Betsy in the room, and he can't remember details surrounding events involving Emma; but he can remember word for word conversations with Verbruggen. How convenient.

Lance has a terrible memory. He hasn't said anything in public, but he clearly realizes it and must be terribly, terribly concerned.

This is why he holds onto this one item so dearly. It is the only thing that he can remember at all!



Dave.

 

[MonkeyFace]

Lance has a terrible memory. He hasn't said anything in public, but he clearly realizes it and must be terribly, terribly concerned.

This is why he holds onto this one item so dearly. It is the only thing that he can remember at all!



Dave.

Apparently, hospital donations can cause doctors to develope amnesia, too.

 

[thehog]

Lance is not a fighter.

He's settles with SCA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...mstrong-lawsuit-acceptance-insurance/3653147/

 

[86TDFWinner]

Lance is not a fighter.

He's settles with SCA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...mstrong-lawsuit-acceptance-insurance/3653147/

Does this mean he suddenly "settles" the fraud/whistleblower cases as well, so he doesn't have to testify?

Also, did you see this:


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...d-whistleblower-lawsuit-floyd-landis/3634467/

 

[D-Queued]

Lance is not a fighter.

He's settles with SCA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...mstrong-lawsuit-acceptance-insurance/3653147/

Not SCA. Acceptance.

"... the scheduled deposition was part of the pretrial discovery process in a civil fraud lawsuit filed against him by Acceptance Insurance, which sought to recover $3 million on bonuses it paid him for winning the Tour de France from 1999-2001."

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

Not SCA. Acceptance.

"... the scheduled deposition was part of the pretrial discovery process in a civil fraud lawsuit filed against him by Acceptance Insurance, which sought to recover $3 million on bonuses it paid him for winning the Tour de France from 1999-2001."

Dave.

SCA will be resolved in the same manner.

This leaves Armstrong open to some smart Lawyers getting settlements for people mislead by Armstrong. MonkeyMouth is gonna be 'milked' easily by those who he owes.

 

[WinterRider]

Not SCA. Acceptance.

"... the scheduled deposition was part of the pretrial discovery process in a civil fraud lawsuit filed against him by Acceptance Insurance, which sought to recover $3 million on bonuses it paid him for winning the Tour de France from 1999-2001."

Dave.

So he has settled the lawsuit with the lowest potential damages.

Is this a tactical maneuver so that Lawyers in the other lawsuits won't have the advantage of seeing a deposition to Acceptance? Or is this the game plan going forward, presumably in a bid to avoid criminal prosecution?

My guess is the latter. There is still a pile of evidence from the criminal investigation, and Lance doesn't know exactly what they have. Not knowing, he can't risk lying in a deposition again, and telling the truth is not an option for him either.

What I'd really like to know is how much they settled for.

 

[Benotti69]

So he has settled the lawsuit with the lowest potential damages.

Is this a tactical maneuver so that Lawyers in the other lawsuits won't have the advantage of seeing a deposition to Acceptance? Or is this the game plan going forward, presumably in a bid to avoid criminal prosecution?

My guess is the latter. There is still a pile of evidence from the criminal investigation, and Lance doesn't know exactly what they have. Not knowing, he can't risk lying in a deposition again, and telling the truth is not an option for him either.

What I'd really like to know is how much they settled for.

I guess the Sunday Times case set the bar. Walsh let it leak they got their full settlement back.

 

[WinterRider]

I guess the Sunday Times case set the bar. Walsh let it leak they got their full settlement back.

For Acceptance there is also 14 years worth of interest. I wonder if they got that too.

 

[Benotti69]

For Acceptance there is also 14 years worth of interest. I wonder if they got that too.

Yep, Armstrong it would appear is afraid to sit in a court of law and open his mouth.

 

[Bosco10]

Yep, Armstrong it would appear is afraid to sit in a court of law and open his mouth.

Lance said it has to be the "proper forum."

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

For Acceptance there is also 14 years worth of interest. I wonder if they got that too.

There is no doubt that they got all and then some. Knowing his unwillingness to testify is once in a lifetime leverage.

 

[MarkvW]

Does this mean he suddenly "settles" the fraud/whistleblower cases as well, so he doesn't have to testify?

Also, did you see this:


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...d-whistleblower-lawsuit-floyd-landis/3634467/

Settling this particular case was a coldly rational thing to do. He was doomed in this lawsuit. Settlement means no more hemmorhaging attorney fees.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

No he doesn't. And trust me. No one wants to spend money when there's no more coming in through the door.

And no one likes spending money on a defense. It's only fun when you're the one lodging the suit to submit another to pain.

True. I was just about to write something like that when searching the last few pages of the LA saga.

Anyway, the longer this goes, the more i forgive LA. Now that he´s nothing to lose, he takes everbody down with him. Didn´t you (or who was it) made that prophecy some months ago?

I go as far as to say: Let him compete in triathlons when all is said and done...

 

[DirtyWorks]

Lance is not a fighter.

He's settles with SCA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...mstrong-lawsuit-acceptance-insurance/3653147/

Tailwind investor Thomas Weisel; Armstrong's agent, Bill Stapleton; and an executive of Stapleton's agency, Barton Knaggs.

Hey guys! Your turn is coming up!!

Landis' lawyer, Paul Scott, however, later asserted that Weisel had, "we believe, actual knowledge" of Armstrong's doping and an alleged cover-up. Scott also alleged that "Armstrong was supposed to have anti-doping provisions in his contract" with Tailwind and "mysteriously, they were not (actually) in Mr. Armstrong's contract."

No! Say it isn't so! You mean to tell me the owner of the American cycling federation is perfectly okay with doping??? Must be a mistake.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I go as far as to say: Let him compete in triathlons when all is said and done...

Why? He's going to do a Chris Horner and rob a few clean riders. Again.

If we're lucky, things get worse from here. Don't worry he's not going to change.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Why? He's going to do a Chris Horner and rob a few clean riders. Again.

If we're lucky, things get worse from here. Don't worry he's not going to change.

I wouldn´t think he´d dope there again. And if, who cares? I think triathlon deserves LA. Maybe german mainstream TV/media sees their own hypocrisy then: Getting out of cycling completely, but bringing triathlon, track, boxing, skiing etc. instead.

 

[trailrunner]

I go as far as to say: Let him compete in triathlons when all is said and done...

Hell no. The only way he should be allowed near a triathlon is if he works as a volunteer at an aid station passing out water to age-groupers.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Why?

He shall be treated like every ex-doper.

You might not know my background, I was one of the first "haters" here. But since he confessed and learned the hard way, i can forgive.

 

[Cloxxki]

I wouldn´t think he´d dope there again.

He also wouldn't after nearly dying of the cancer he got from the dope, and certainly had it accelerate out of control. He also wouldn't do it because his cleanliness was the symbol of hope for all the world's cancer patients and their loved ones.
Heck yeah he'll dope his brains out for tri. He'll have to because he can at best follow on the swim, and needs to open a gap on everyone of about 20 minutes or more to win the thing. For a pro triathlete he's a pretty bad runner, in many ways.

Armstrong will be truthful and righteous when it is the absolute best way for him, financially AND for his ego. The truth rarely suits these benefactors.

 

[trailrunner]

Why?

He shall be treated like every ex-doper.

Not every ex-doper tried to ruin the lives of so many other peoples. Not every doper lied, lied, lied. Not every doper made as much money as he did. Not every doper hid behind the cancer shield.

His punishment of a lifetime ban fits his crimes.

But since he confessed and learned the hard way, i can forgive.

He only confessed because he was caught and convicted, and he only confessed when it was in HIS best interest. He deserves no mercy whatsoever.

 

[trailrunner]

I wouldn´t think he´d dope there again. And if, who cares? I think triathlon deserves LA.

He can be clean as a whistle for the rest of his life, and he still shouldn't be allowed to compete again. He already did too much damage. Lifetime ban.