Paris-Nice 2024, March 3-10

[joseph89]

“If we have a plan, Roglic is usually stuck to my wheel. I didn't like him, that was why I kept going so hard.” - Remco

Remco about the sprint for bonus seconds

 

[Oldermanish]

Roglic is such a negative rider, could go for the win and bonus seconds but no, let's not pull.

He literally spun up to Remco's move without getting out of the saddle. This is a stage race; not an ego-pull contest. Let's see how it turns out to see who has gas to win in a few days. Remco looks strong....like tractor.

 

[ManicJack]

New to cycling i see. This is usually how breaks form. It starts with one rider attacking, another responding, they work together and ride away.

🙄

 

[Oldermanish]

With guys like Evenepoel, Bernal, Pogacar, MvdP, WvA, you know they are not afraid to eat some wind, cause some splits and provide entertainment (reminder: watching racing = entertainment, and nothing else). If it wasn't Roglic but Pog, they were gone and the 'dumb(*)' move would have been a very good one (it's called selffullfilling prophecy, but you have those who can pull it off and those who can't or won't).

Ofcourse, like in every Western movie, besides the good guys mentioned above, you also need some bad guys (Escartin will be the ugly one) like Gerrans, Roglic, Zubeldia, Valvderd, Van Garderen... to provide extra draft for the heroes that are pulling, by sucking their wheels.

So I want to thank Roglic who seems to be in good shape, thus hard to drop and dangerous if Remco is overconfident. Without wheelsuckers like him, we wouldn't have a competitive race.

(*) dumb moves are those that make you lose the race. This move wasn't winning, but wasn't losing either. It could have been winning in certain circumstances, and there was nothing lost with trying.

(reminder: watching racing = entertainment, and nothing else)....one of the least aware analysis of any sport I've seen. Racing to win=winning. The move was going nowhere and most commentators were quick to point that out.
Who won the bonus points? It was er.....Matteo. He rode as strong as any contender.

 

[Salvarani]

“If we have a plan, Roglic is usually stuck to my wheel. I didn't like him, that was why I kept going so hard.” - Remco

Remco about the sprint for bonus seconds

He is so mature and wise.

 

[Oldermanish]

🙄

New to cycling i see. This is usually how breaks form. It starts with one rider attacking, another responding, they work together and ride away.

Sorry Logic; it may be how a break forms at the right point in the terrain. The guys that went were earnest at first but all of them looked back and chilled when they saw an earnest pursuit. It was a softening move and not a decisive one. But you'd know that because you're not new to cycling/opinionating.

 

[Oldermanish]

“If we have a plan, Roglic is usually stuck to my wheel. I didn't like him, that was why I kept going so hard.” - Remco

Remco about the sprint for bonus seconds

If he repeated that phrase a few times to himself in the mirror he'd begin to understand the "plan" had a flaw? Maybe... or just make a move when it'll be closed and complain to the press? That's impressive.

 

[jmdirt]

I could live without any of it.

Too much good racing these days to be a negative fan. Too many riders to admire to focus on whatever rider one dislikes, for whatever inane reason.

Yes^^^!

 

[joseph89]

😍

 

[DNP-Old]

😍

So many champions in this foto (i.e. not Roglic). Any biters?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Why is this thread such a circus? The fight for the podium at the Tour will become more important than Vingegaard winning.

 

[ManicJack]

Reminder that this thread exists — if you care to free up the race thread from at least some of the redundant back and forth.

Remco vs Roglic

Apparently, this has become a hot topic. It deserves its own thread. Today, the thread will have its grand opening when we will ceremoniously dump a million gallons of liquid shiit into it.

forum.cyclingnews.com

Best post of the thread.

 

[red_flanders]

So…uh…we shouldn’t talk about the two biggest riders in the race…in the race thread?

 

[Volderke]

(reminder: watching racing = entertainment, and nothing else)....one of the least aware analysis of any sport I've seen. Racing to win=winning. The move was going nowhere and most commentators were quick to point that out.
Who won the bonus points? It was er.....Matteo. He rode as strong as any contender.

I didn’t know you watch racing in order to win a race… or you simply don’t have any reading comprehension.

The discussion isn’t about what is the smartest thing to win this race (everything that happened today is largely irrelevant). The discussion is that some people appreciate entertaining riders (we’re all watching, not racing, unless you were in the race?), and some appreciate boring riders. Each to their own.

I’d say the take-home message for today: it was a great race, and we know who to thank.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You got to know when to yolo
Know when to follow
Know when to ride away
Know when to sprint
You never count your trophies
When you're sitting in the saddle
There'll be time enough for counting
When the racing's done

- The Rambler

 

[ManicJack]

So…uh…we shouldn’t talk about the two biggest riders in the race…in the race thread?

What does a fan boy p*ssing contest have to do with this race?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The easiest way for Roglic to remind me why I don't like him is for him to get on a bike.
The easiest way for Evenepoel to remind me why I don't like him is for him to open his mouth.
The easiest way for this forum to remind me which users I don't like is the pair of them racing against each other.
Today has been the perfect encapsulation of all three.

 

[Netserk]

The easiest way for Roglic to remind me why I don't like him is for him to get on a bike.
The easiest way for Evenepoel to remind me why I don't like him is for him to open his mouth.
The easiest way for this forum to remind me which users I don't like is the pair of them racing against each other.
Today has been the perfect encapsulation of all three.

I hope you look forward to Itzulia, Dauphiné & the Tour!

 

[red_flanders]

What does a fan boy p*ssing contest have to do with this race?

At some point the complaining about the noise becomes far worse than the noise.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just watched the stage. Still haven't got my breath back. Spectacular. We have a race!
Kudos to Remco for trying the jump.
Congrats to Kooij, settling for Mads' wheel. Can't tell whether result would have different outcome without Lidl's last moment short of Kirsch.

Excellent stage design.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to be a fan of Primoz Roglic. His entertainment is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of advanced cycling strategy most of the spectacle he provides will go over a typical viewer's head. There is also Primoz' stoic outlook, which is deftly woven into his interviews. It draws heavily from his former skijumping career for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of these standard interview answers, to realize they're not just both intentionally and unintentionally funny - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Primoz Roglic truly ARE July fans- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor in Primoz' existential catchphrase "No Risk no Glory" which is itself a cryptic reference to famed AAF general Frederick Corbin Blesses approach to the Korean War. I'm smirking right now just imagining of those y-u-no-attack-fans scratching their heads in fonfusion as Ralph Denk's genious unfolds on their television screen. What fools.. how I pity them 😂. And yes by the way, I DO have a Primoz Roglic tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes. And even they have to demonstrate they are in my stratosphere of cycling strategy understanding before I show them.

Screw brainless attackers: Teddy, Fatco and Skeletor. Rogla for life!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

To be fair, you have to have a very high cycling IQ to be a fan of Primoz Roglic. His entertainment is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of advanced cycling strategy most of the spectacle he provides will go over a typical viewer's head. There is also Primoz' stoic outlook, which is deftly woven into his interviews. It draws heavily from his former skijumping career for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of these standard interview answers, to realize they're not just both intentionally and unintentionally funny - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Primoz Roglic truly ARE July fans- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor in Primoz' existential catchphrase "No Risk no Glory" which is itself a cryptic reference to famed AAF general Frederick Corbin Blesses approach to the Korean War. I'm smirking right now just imagining of those y-u-no-attack-fans scratching their heads in fonfusion as Ralph Denk's genious unfolds on their television screen. What fools.. how I pity them 😂. And yes by the way, I DO have a Primoz Roglic tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes. And even they have to demonstrate they are in my stratosphere of cycling strategy understanding before I show them.

 

[Berniece]

To be fair, you have to have a very high cycling IQ to be a fan of Primoz Roglic. His entertainment is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of advanced cycling strategy most of the spectacle he provides will go over a typical viewer's head. There is also Primoz' stoic outlook, which is deftly woven into his interviews. It draws heavily from his former skijumping career for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depth of these standard interview answers, to realize they're not just both intentionally and unintentionally funny - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Primoz Roglic truly ARE July fans- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humor in Primoz' existential catchphrase "No Risk no Glory" which is itself a cryptic reference to famed AAF general Frederick Corbin Blesses approach to the Korean War. I'm smirking right now just imagining of those y-u-no-attack-fans scratching their heads in fonfusion as Ralph Denk's genious unfolds on their television screen. What fools.. how I pity them 😂. And yes by the way, I DO have a Primoz Roglic tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes. And even they have to demonstrate they are in my stratosphere of cycling strategy understanding before I show them.

Lol, is this satire?

 

[bNator]

Roglic not attacking is merely a construct, an attempted spin of some sour Remco fans who try to justify the fact their homeboi keeps losing against Roglic every race they enter. Sure, these guys would love to see Rogla not being able to follow their guy. And if he does, then at least let him pull so that Remco can win a stage against him. Once this doesn’t happen, all that’s left is to b&m on chat boards what a negative rider Rogla is…

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Suck wheel, win race ~ Sun Tzu, The art of war