Netserk said:
The danish guy may be the former DCU chairman who resigned back in january. At least thats the rumour.
Nothing to do with the DCU then, just a privat person allowed to be as stupid as anyone els.
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Netserk said:
T-Nielsen said:The danish guy may be the former DCU chairman who resigned back in january. At least thats the rumour.
Nothing to do with the DCU then, just a privat person allowed to be as stupid as anyone els.
hrotha said:I'm amazed that he still got 74 votes.
That said, I'd rather have a Cookson vs MsQuaid race than only one candidate.
Galic Ho said:. . .
I wanna know which nation is giving the longest bans in cycling? Is it the Italians? Aren't they the harshest on doping? Put them in charge.
ToreBear said:Well the case against Steffen Kjærgaard might give you an indication. They are talking life time ban for any association with Norwegian cycling. And his doping was beyond the WADA SOL.
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A good thing for Norwegian sport in the Kjærgaard case is that AD Norway got a good budget increase, and the politicians agreed to criminalize use of doping. Hence the polices tools could become available like it is in France and Italy.
The Norwegian President had apparently been asked to run, but he seems reluctant due to a lot of projects likely to come to fruition in the near future in Norwegian cycling.
Personally I'm hoping for a French candidate, someone like David Lappartient. However being from a big federation might make it more difficult to get the votes from the smaller non European federations. In that case the Norwegian president, might be a good choice, if he can be convinced.
Firstly - while the result is excellent and a clear message that McQuaid is not wanted I do not expect him to do the right thing and just disappear.pmcg76 said:This is politics, Irish style, it was a case of those who wanted the right thing for the sport versus the old boys network. I would almost be certain that the clubs who all voted in favour of McQ had strong links with the McQuaids going back decades. One of them was Sean Kelly's home club I think.
Look at Jack Watson, he has been around the sport in Ireland forever, much like McQ. They are likely bosom buddies so there was no way someone like that was going to turn around and vote against McQ.
Make no mistake that Watson has done a lot for the sport in Ireland also and is a true cycling man but friendship and loyalty often takes precedent over the right thing to do.
The overwhelming impression in social media sources prior to the meeting were that most people were against McQ but look at how close the vote was. This suggest's that a lot of people who backed McQ didn't want it to be known that they backed him so stayed quiet. They would have backed him regardless of any negativity but wanted to hide their reasons for doing so.
Just hopefully it wont leave any divisive recriminations in CI.
Dr. Maserati said:Firstly - while the result is excellent and a clear message that McQuaid is not wanted I do not expect him to do the right thing and just disappear.
He needs a stake driven through him before he will die.
Sadly it is hard not to see recriminations within CI from this.
I have met Jack when he was a Comm at many races, he is a gent, very fair with a common sense approach. But he (& others) picked the wrong wheel and from reading the 'live' reports some made it very personal.
Heads do not need to roll - but the old guard need to acknowledge that cycling is not just their preserve.
Dr. Maserati said:Firstly - while the result is excellent and a clear message that McQuaid is not wanted I do not expect him to do the right thing and just disappear.
He needs a stake driven through him before he will die.
Sadly it is hard not to see recriminations within CI from this.
I have met Jack when he was a Comm at many races, he is a gent, very fair with a common sense approach. But he (& others) picked the wrong wheel and from reading the 'live' reports some made it very personal.
Heads do not need to roll - but the old guard need to acknowledge that cycling is not just their preserve.
pmcg76 said:I agree that their may be recriminations within CI which is sad, there will surely be some bitterness for some time but hopefully it will pass. Cycling is on an absolute high here at the moment so it would be sad to see that be lost because of jealousy and bitterness.
There are now reports coming from the EGM about the arguments for both views at the EGM. It is very sad to see that some of the pro-McQuaid camp were indeed putting the nationality issue to the fore. That was incredibly misguided and the anti-McQuaid delegates dismissed those arguments in a fitting manner.
Doc-I think you know how things are in Ireland when it comes to politics, every GAA club in Ireland is run along the same lines. There is the old guard who have been involved for years and feel they have a greater sense of entitlement than the younger, newer faces. You usually have to pay your dues working with the underage section first before even seeking a senior position in a club.
It is very clear that some of the officials were offended at seeing people who they never laid eyes on before suddenly appearing. It's like before an All-Ireland final when you have people who never attended a GAA event all season suddenly appearing demanding a ticket because they happen to be a member of a club.
I can understand that feeling of bitterness but in the case of CI, as you say the older guard have to accept what happened and move on for the benefit of Irish cycling.
thehog said:Pat is not stupid. The majority of the management committee were on on the Armstrong heist. Many have also benifited from presidency. They've done deals. Exposé him. He'll expose them.
DirtyDennis said:I'm willing to make a prediction.
I think McQuaid is toast and I think he'll go without trying to take down anybody else.
Dr. Maserati said:Firstly - while the result is excellent and a clear message that McQuaid is not wanted I do not expect him to do the right thing and just disappear.
He needs a stake driven through him before he will die.
Sadly it is hard not to see recriminations within CI from this.
I have met Jack when he was a Comm at many races, he is a gent, very fair with a common sense approach. But he (& others) picked the wrong wheel and from reading the 'live' reports some made it very personal.
Heads do not need to roll - but the old guard need to acknowledge that cycling is not just their preserve.
thehog said:He's not going down without a fight.
All expenses paid housing, travel account and access for his family to riders and races.
It will take more than a vote to remove him.
They need to destroy him. Embarrass him.
They asked him to resign on Friday. He did not.
Pat is not stupid. The majority of the management committee were on on the Armstrong heist. Many have also benifited from presidency. They've done deals. Exposé him. He'll expose them.
DirtyWorks said:Remember Hein runs the UCI like he owns it. So, if Hein wants Pat to remain, chances are good we'll see some more interesting interpretations of UCI procedure.
Also remember the UCI is not a Democracy. Sure, people vote for stuff, but votes are bought and sold by people that do not have to report back to ground-level members. I have no doubt the likes of Makarov, Cookson, and Thom Wiesel's proxy Plant are helping kick Pat out. But, it's a complicated, opaque structure.
Hein is still there at the top. Pat's got UCI resources to buy votes.
DirtyDennis said:I'm willing to make a prediction.
I think McQuaid is toast and I think he'll go without trying to take down anybody else.
Race Radio said:I expect at least one other legitimate candidate, from an old school cycling country, to enter the race soon.
JimmyFingers said:Other sports administrators from other countries wouldn't raise the same objections methinks....
Race Radio said:It wasn't even close. I expect at least one other legitimate candidate, from an old school cycling country, to enter the race soon.