Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[doperhopper]

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The suspense is killing me. Has Lil Richie taken it to next level like Brad and Dawg before him?

I sure hope so.. Only to see Brailsford try to explain his way out of that with some more clinic fodder.

easy: Richie is 5 kg lighter now (CN article, citing diet and lifestyle change), add the usual marginal power gain during weightlosing process, and if not enough, throw in some badzilla gambit

 

[Irondan]

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I sure hope so.. Only to see Brailsford try to explain his way out of that with some more clinic fodder.

easy: Richie is 5 kg lighter now (CN article, citing diet and lifestyle change), add the usual marginal power gain during weightlosing process, and if not enough, throw in some badzilla gambit

Meh.. That's all public knowledge. If Porte wins the Giro, there's going to be some serious doping questions that won't be easy to brush off. Sky is taking donkey's and turning them into racehorses. That's not a new concept...

 

[SeriousSam]

Ah but the early signs were there with Big Richie dropping Contador and everyone else at Ax3. Now, relieved of his domestique duties, the 30 year old has reached the height of his powers, having given up beer and other vices and blablablabla. Also there is precedent of clean riders transforming, see Brad and Dawg, both of which are clean, so this is obviously possible in the clean era of the sport.

Would be the narrative spun around a Big Richie victory.

 

[Bronstein]

A wise man once said 'less is more'.

 

[May0maniac]

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A wise man once said 'less is more'.

I would like cite the great Yngwie Malmsteen:
"Less is more... how can that be? It's impossible... more is more!"

 

[ray j willings]

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A wise man once said 'less is more'.

I would like cite the great Yngwie Malmsteen:
"Less is more... how can that be? It's impossible... more is more!"

Very underated guitarist. The first real sweep picking king. Like Ritchie blackmore on speed.
I think Yngwie never really found that balance of pop and metal like Van Halen did.
He did a version of Kansas Carry on Wayward Son and it just does not it the mark as good a player as he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsF8fhp_EgM

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

 

[Rollthedice]

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I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

True. Three chords are perfect, four are pushing it, and five are simply not allowed. Write a good song, I want to remember it, feel it, give me goosebumps. Otherwise pick up jazz, you can solo and improvise the night away.

If Richie wins Giro against Contador I'll torture myself with some Malmsteen.

 

[ray j willings]

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I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

I agree. You have to have some kind of melody to grab. Vai and Satch have that in bucket loads.
That's why I pasted the Kansas cover. Malmsteen has just taking all the great melody solo bits out and added his frenetic playing style. The original was better even though technically he's a "faster player"
Hendrix can't play like Paul Gilbert but it's about the vibe not just the speed.
Malmsteen is still exciting to listen to, especially Rising force.

 

[manafana]

owning it this season is the devil

 

[May0maniac]

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I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

I'm not a big Malmsteen fan, a good friend of mine on the other hand his, but I just love that quote and Malmsteen woulf probably call himself "the great Yngwie Malmsteen".
I rate a guy like Gary Moore way higher than Malmsteen, Vai and Satriani, the guy had a lot more feeling. He's also one of the reasons why I really love Black Rose by Thin Lizzy.

 

[ray j willings]

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I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

I'm not a big Malmsteen fan, a good friend of mine on the other hand his, but I just love that quote and Malmsteen woulf probably call himself "the great Yngwie Malmsteen".
I rate a guy like Gary Moore way higher than Malmsteen, Vai and Satriani, the guy had a lot more feeling. He's also one of the reasons why I really love Black Rose by Thin Lizzy.

Black Rose is a great album. The guitars are massive. Scott Gorham was by then using his Gibson with full humbucker pick ups. He used to use the cherry Les Paul with mini humbuckers, That was one of my fav guitars growing up ,it got stolen. My fav Lizzy album is Bad Reputation.

 

[doperhopper]

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I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

I'm not a big Malmsteen fan, a good friend of mine on the other hand his, but I just love that quote and Malmsteen woulf probably call himself "the great Yngwie Malmsteen".
I rate a guy like Gary Moore way higher than Malmsteen, Vai and Satriani, the guy had a lot more feeling. He's also one of the reasons why I really love Black Rose by Thin Lizzy.

In any case, most guitarists showed their talent at relatively young age and were progressing streadily to the pro level, rather than being domestique player in support role for years and suddenly coming one year with superlight and thin fingers and running supersonic over the frets for hours...

 

[skippythepinhead]

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I take umbrage at the description of Malmsteen as great in any way shape or form.

Technically gifted, but I've never really felt that there's anything but technical brilliance there. That's probably why he's never caught on with a wider audience, like a lot of other Guitar magazine perennials like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. Amazing capabilities, no doubt, but very little that truly feels exciting, daring or that really moves you.

Which probably makes it even more apt to use him as a comparison in a thread referring to Sky race domination

I'm not a big Malmsteen fan, a good friend of mine on the other hand his, but I just love that quote and Malmsteen woulf probably call himself "the great Yngwie Malmsteen".
I rate a guy like Gary Moore way higher than Malmsteen, Vai and Satriani, the guy had a lot more feeling. He's also one of the reasons why I really love Black Rose by Thin Lizzy.

In any case, most guitarists showed their talent at relatively young age and were progressing streadily to the pro level, rather than being domestique player in support role for years and suddenly coming one year with superlight and thin fingers and running supersonic over the frets for hours...

Rent a room

 

[Stingray34]

Malmsteen - anyone who persists with the same harmonic minor runs while wearing lace-up leather pants for 35 years gets a big NO from me.

Even Dylan, with his same five chords, is a better player.

If you do it right, the Sky's the limit! (on topic!)

 

[nayr497]

Who knew I'd get advice that my lace-up britches are out-of-style on a cycling forum...

Thank you!

 

[nayr497]

Is it me or is Porte getting funnier looking all the time?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Is it me or is Porte getting funnier looking all the time?

It's not you

 

[SyroboiII]

He is clean. Get on with it. The generation of oldschool dopers like Contador and Valverde have been overtaken with cleaner methods such a extreme weight loss and innovation in technology, nutrition, exercise and legal pharmaceuticals.

 

[blackcat]

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He is clean. Get on with it. The generation of oldschool dopers like Contador and Valverde have been overtaken with cleaner methods such a extreme weight loss and innovation in technology, nutrition, exercise and legal pharmaceuticals.

I agree with you

 

[SeriousSam]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/porte-this-giro-ditalia-is-a-big-opportunity

Some people sit there and watch cycling on television with a stopwatch. They do all these calculations but it's so far from the truth. At the end of the day, I'm the one at the training camps flogging the hell out of myself up at altitude. It's hard work and nothing else. It's got to be the time that people believe in us and trust us.

Everyone, stop thinking critically and put away your stopwatches, for it doesn't matter if you go up the Madone quicker than Lance. To infer anything from that is internet pseudoscience. You just need to have trust.

 

[deeno1975]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/porte-this-giro-ditalia-is-a-big-opportunity

Some people sit there and watch cycling on television with a stopwatch. They do all these calculations but it's so far from the truth. At the end of the day, I'm the one at the training camps flogging the hell out of myself up at altitude. It's hard work and nothing else. It's got to be the time that people believe in us and trust us.

Everyone, stop thinking critically and put away your stopwatches, for it doesn't matter if you go up the Madone quicker than Lance. To infer anything from that is internet pseudoscience. You just need to have trust.

This is where you use the trusted scientific method of looking into the eyes and determining that the person is telling the truth (or micro dosing and using altitude to mask).

 

[Netserk]

Lolz. I would never say dumb shiit like that if I was a successful doper.

 

[the sceptic]

Richie is starting to get as cocky as the dawg when he went into alien mode in 2013.

 

[nayr497]

I really wonder how much drinking a PRO cyclist could do.

As an amateur, I enjoy a few drinks...but after a long day at work and then a training ride...I tend to fall asleep after a couple beers.

Also, my biggest problem with Porte is that he's a former tryathlete.