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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Krzysztof_O

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Extinction said:
It's a given he'll have to get everything just right. In today's cycling, performance science has become so sophisticated that he should be well advised on what to do. The problem is Vingegaard, who has reached peaks Pog has had no answer for. And the Dane is all in for Tour. It will thus be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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With or without the Giro, Skeletor is the main problem. But Giro in Pog's legs surely doesn't look like maximizing performance in July. It's about winning a GT again after almost 3 years and have less pressure to win the Tour. If Pog feels well after the Giro he'll go for it at the Tour (possibly riding more freely and taking more risks than usually) but winning it would probably require some favourable circumstances (which can happen ofc).
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
With or without the Giro, Skeletor is the main problem. But Giro in Pog's legs surely doesn't look like maximizing performance in July. It's about winning a GT again after almost 3 years and have less pressure to win the Tour. If Pog feels well after the Giro he'll go for it at the Tour (possibly riding more freely and taking more risks than usually) but winning it would probably require some favourable circumstances (which can happen ofc).
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Agreed. It's a good moment for the sport. Nobody would have thought that a predestined Belgian wonder-boy, would have had to contend with a Slovenian phenomenon who wins the Tour at 21 (just after a Colombian Messi won it at 22), to then have all plans overturned, because a Danish fish-packer showed up. It's sensational.
 
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Cookster15 said:
Pogacar's main GC rival at the Giro looks like Geraint Thomas turns 38 before the and of the Giro. So Pog has a "light" Giro parcours and light competition. But he will still have to train and race smart to preserve form for the Tour and a fresh Vingegaard.

UAE also look strong on paper, so maybe that could be crucial in Pogacar making it through the Giro without cooking himself (like Contador 2011) ? But there are still many "ifs buts and maybes".
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As far as contenders are concerned, I'm interested to see if Nairo can reach top mountain shape and what this means. The TTs, however, will surely be his Achille's heel.
 
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Froome

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Agreed. It's a good moment for the sport. Nobody would have thought that a predestined Belgian wonder-boy, would have had to contend with a Slovenian phenomenon who wins the Tour at 21 (just after a Colombian Messi won it at 22), to then have all plans overturned, because a Danish fish-packer showed up. It's sensational.
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The danish fish-packer showed up much earlier than Pogacar and Remco evenepoel.

The danish fish-packer won in 2015 on Alpe d'huez 😀
 
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bNator

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Froome said:
Vingo is the strongest GT rider of this generation.

I think we can all agree on that.


Personally i think he is the strongest GT rider of this century. (Palmares is a different matter).
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You can think whatever you like. Claiming we all agree on that is a bit rich, though…

I for one think this generation is not even close to halfway through with their racing and any such claim at this point is ridiculous.
 
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You can think whatever you like. Claiming we all agree on that is a bit rich, though…

I for one think this generation is not even close to halfway through with their racing and any such claim at this point is ridiculous.
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On the other hand, if he, Vingegaard, were not the most aerobically efficient we've ever seen, Pogacar would not be settling for a Giro win.
 
bNator

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Froome said:
What you really mean with this? Can you explain please? I didn't understood.
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It’s only the start of the 2024 season. There could be other riders that perform this year or next and be at an even higher level than Vingegaard. Like how we went from Bernal to Pogacar and to Vingegaard as who’s going to dominate the GT scene.
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The title of “best of his generation” has changed the address at least twice in the last 5 years. It looks like we will have to wait a bit longer to draw any conclusions.

Sure you ( @Froome ) may believe Jonas will come on top in the end - if he keeps this up for a few more years, he will… But until he does, there will be no “agreement” on this board regarding who the best GT rider of a generation is.
 
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Yes, someday it will happen, maybe it will be somebody from the same team like uijdtbroeks, but i think vingegaard, pogacar, remco and roglic will still be the best GC riders at least in the next 2 years.

The level of Bernal wasn't that high, so naturally appeared somebody better, it's not the case at the moment.
 
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