Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[GuntherL1]

1) You should work on your reading comprehension, and also not quote things selectively to try and make your point. Your fanboi-ism is raging through
2) my point is that both UAE and Visma are at levels that have simply been unseen and are not reasonable.

I'm not a fan of TVL or Vingegaard.
So they're both at unseen levels? Is a member of TVL winning everything on all terrain all season? I don't think so.

 

[snipeheem]

I love it when people call their boss stupid

U heard him, he is clean

 

[snipeheem]

Yeah, he is clean, it was because of Javier sola.

He is as much clean as your guy

 

[Ripper]

U heard him, he is clean

I always believe riders ... lol

He also directly called the Vamp stupid

 

[Froome]

One theory, Vingegaard’s sudden rise a couple years ago coincided with some new discovery, maybe beyond what UAE had at the time. Then this year UAE/Pogacar got on it and he’s back in the lead. And they’re both pushing it to new levels progressively.

Vingegaard had a much more Froomelike development than Pogacar so he may have already had access to something greater the last couple years.

Also wondering if Kuss’s bizarre MIA season this year has anything to do with it.

Maybe they are back on the lead, or Visma could not aplly perfectly these new doping programme in they're best riders, especially Vingegaard because of the back luck they had.

 

[Froome]

He is as much clean as your guy

Good luck on find some post mine saying Vingegaard is clean.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He is as much clean as your guy

Is this kindergarten?

 

[velaso montador]

Everyone is doped and you guys still watch it all? Hmmm yeah sure. I get you you guys here dislike Pogacar I see the names I remember some quotes haha and you gather here and tell yourself everyone is doped and you feel better from it I get it.

Let me tell you guy what it really is, its called evolution or do you guys believe the nokia people used from 1997 is better than todays Iphone? They even use cognetive AI in different areas within the sport now its so many aspect and areas knowledge just is not comperable, litterally everything so naturally their better this is simply only evolution nothing else. The way they alter their training based on recovery and how much more they can do its all out there.. Mindboggling that you guys think the world stands still. Or maybe not everyone thinks it but just gather here with few fellow minded to feel better I get it and dont take this the wrong way, you all are here cause your fav rider whoever it is isnt winning well most of you anyway. Thats just my guess and wether or not most of you are ready to admit that or not thats mostly it.

Now also the best climbing performance of all time. Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time and have been for a long time its nothing new just enjoy that your able to witness the best that has ever raced the bike is my tip your lucky afterall. In 100 years they wil speak of him in ways its hard to believe, you have the chance to witness him. Your lucky the end.

Remember life is great guys and enjoy it. Best intention do with that as you want cheers

 

[SHAD0W93]

He's the Forest Gump of cycling.

He's the main character of cycling; Goku, Dragon Born, custom character, Master Chief, etc.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Is this kindergarten?

No, we're on more drugs on here.

 

[GuntherL1]

He finished 40-20 seconds behind the guys mentioned in 2017.

Penko was a good time trialist at this time for his age. Riding against Affini, being close to beating him, among other riders that has gone pro later.

2018 he had improved and beat them. He was one minute behind Tratnik, who won.

He was two years younger than them.

Right. Tratnik, that intergenerational ITT talent. It's weird. You have guys like Evenepoel or Tarling that are ITT talents when they hit the road, but the Slovenian needed to join UAE to become good at it. Amazing.

 

[GuntherL1]

Everyone is doped and you guys still watch it all? Hmmm yeah sure. I get you you guys here dislike Pogacar I see the names I remember some quotes haha and you gather here and tell yourself everyone is doped and you feel better from it I get it.

Let me tell you guy what it really is, its called evolution or do you guys believe the nokia people used from 1997 is better than todays Iphone? They even use cognetive AI in different areas within the sport now its so many aspect and areas knowledge just is not comperable, litterally everything so naturally their better this is simply only evolution nothing else. The way they alter their training based on recovery and how much more they can do its all out there.. Mindboggling that you guys think the world stands still. Or maybe not everyone thinks it but just gather here with few fellow minded to feel better I get it and dont take this the wrong way, you all are here cause your fav rider whoever it is isnt winning well most of you anyway. Thats just my guess and wether or not most of you are ready to admit that or not thats mostly it.

Now also the best climbing performance of all time. Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time and have been for a long time its nothing new just enjoy that your able to witness the best that has ever raced the bike is my tip your lucky afterall. In 100 years they wil speak of him in ways its hard to believe, you have the chance to witness him. Your lucky the end.

Remember life is great guys and enjoy it. Best intention do with that as you want cheers

If everyone is doped, explain why one guy is crushing everyone all season on all terrain without even having a single bad moment.

 

[Extinction]

He's the main character of cycling; Goku, Dragon Born, custom character, Master Chief, etc.

On carbon monoxide

 

[Extinction]

If everyone is doped, explain why one guy is crushing everyone all season on all terrain without even having a single bad moment.

Follow the money trail

 

[Nick2413]

Tadej Pogačar in winner's press conference: "There will always be doubts. Because of cycling before my time, in any sport, if someone is winning, there’s always jealousy and haters ... I tell you now, it's not worth it. Taking anything to risk your health is stupid

So motors confirmed

 

[SHAD0W93]

On carbon monoxide

Hey Goku has Super Saiyan and it’s forms, Dragon Born has dragon shout powers, custom character has everything, Master Chief has Cortana and mjolnir, Pogacar has CO plus who knows what else.

 

[Nick2413]

Is it actually true he literally said even caffeine is a grey area substance and riders shouldn’t be messing with it? Someone posted a quote the other day..

 

[lightclimber]

If Pogacar does ever test positive, this whole era will crumble. Even more so if Vingegaard gets a positive as well. Next year it’ll be interesting if he keeps this performance or levels off a little.

Like I also wished that Vos and AVV would test positive, just so real change can occur... but it never happened (because it can't be allowed to happen). Now Demi and Lotte have taken over and it's more of the same. The all conquering Dutch women cannot be allowed to torpedo women's cycling with a positive (~UCI, probably)

 

[JWTS]

I'm not a fan of TVL or Vingegaard.
So they're both at unseen levels? Is a member of TVL winning everything on all terrain all season? I don't think so.

Did you miss last year's Tour and Vuelta? You're kidding me, right?

 

[Extinction]

Gianetti was rushed to the hospital for a bad dose of perfluorocarbons in 98, to increase blood O2 capacity, and now it's carbon monoxide.

 

[DenisMenchov]

If everyone is doped, explain why one guy is crushing everyone all season on all terrain without even having a single bad moment.

What do you mean all terrain? He's "only" winning when the road goes uphill all season. He also worked a lot on his descending in the off-season, but uphill is the only terrain where he's crushing everyone.

 

[GuntherL1]

Did you miss last year's Tour and Vuelta? You're kidding me, right?

Are we talking about last year now? I prefer to talk about the present. That TdF of 2023 where Pogacar arrived with a wrist injury, is that the one where he dropped Vingegaard 3 times on a climb and where the entire TJV team had to race like mad men to force one bad day on Pogacar?

Yeah, we can completely compare that to a rider who won 12 stages as a non-sprinter in back to back GTs.

 

[GuntherL1]

What do you mean all terrain? He's "only" winning when the road goes uphill all season. He also worked a lot on his descending in the off-season, but uphill is the only terrain where he's crushing everyone.

Sorry, I forgot that LBL and Strade Bianche are in the high mountains.

 

[Red Rick]

Did you miss last year's Tour and Vuelta? You're kidding me, right?

He clearly did cause they didnt win all season on all terrains and he observed that accurately

 

[Salvarani]

Right. Tratnik, that intergenerational ITT talent. It's weird. You have guys like Evenepoel or Tarling that are ITT talents when they hit the road, but the Slovenian needed to join UAE to become good at it. Amazing.

Tratnik is much older and was way more ahead at that time…

And arguably Pog was good for his age at it, with limited experience.