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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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snipeheem said:
u can tell he dont like him at all .
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why, because he dared to criticize him for something? should he just be jacking him off like the rest of the cycling media does? i dont understand this new phenomenon where if someone is even the slightest bit critical they are labeled a hater. it's ridiculous. the point of being a journalist (and i'm using this term very loosely here wrt to Lance) is to objectively call it like you see it. wrong or right, he thought Pogacar should tone it down and stop winning so much, for his own good! he never once said Pogacar was selfish or a bad guy for wanting to win. he said what he said as advice to Pogacar, speaking from his own experience of dominating the Tour. i cant believe im defending Lance Armstrong, but i dont think he gives a *** what or how many races Pogacar wins. he knows he'll never win 7 Tours in a row anyway.
 
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zlev11 said:
why, because he dared to criticize him for something? should he just be jacking him off like the rest of the cycling media does? i dont understand this new phenomenon where if someone is even the slightest bit critical they are labeled a hater. it's ridiculous. the point of being a journalist (and i'm using this term very loosely here wrt to Lance) is to objectively call it like you see it. wrong or right, he thought Pogacar should tone it down and stop winning so much, for his own good! he never once said Pogacar was selfish or a bad guy for wanting to win. he said what he said as advice to Pogacar, speaking from his own experience of dominating the Tour. i cant believe im defending Lance Armstrong, but i dont think he gives a *** what or how many races Pogacar wins. he knows he'll never win 7 Tours in a row anyway.
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Bro, he literally accuse him of doping , like wtf?
 
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zlev11 said:
no he didn't. and if he did, why can't he express his opinion? it would be quite refreshing to actually hear someone question his ridiculous performances.
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If this was one of the few instances when Lance wasn't manipulative I'd agree. But generally when someone is as manipulative as Lance they know what they do but make it seem like they don't. So even if he didn't he did. But I'd not say that was a bad thing. In this regard I am pro Lance lol.
 
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Dont make them question you? Its political game? Pogacar just made the biggest mistake of his life when he attack for isola stage, come on he insinuated a lot between the lines, look at the comments after isola stage
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i know nuance is hard but that's not calling him a doper, that's sage advice from someone who was in Pogacar's exact position once. what Lance doesn't realize is that that advice doesn't apply anymore because the cycling press is just "fans with typewriters" more than ever before.
 
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If this was one of the few instances when Lance wasn't manipulative I'd agree. But generally when someone is as manipulative as Lance they know what they do but make it seem like they don't. So even if he didn't he did. But I'd not say that was a bad thing. In this regard I am pro Lance lol.
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i do agree that Lance is probably the last person i would want to see making doping accusations (unless he actually knew something concrete) but i truly dont think he cares about anyones success anymore. he is riding that same train now with his podcast and his media company.
 
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I remember I asked a couple of days ago if riders were good at lying. Now I am watching a certain pod with a certain soon to be DS. The nervousness he presents as his compatriot are going through the watts after this tour is obvious. He used to be outspoken and used to say that they all dope...

Even if he's not like involved in whatever goes on, I do believe watching him going from being outspoken to go inside the omerta himself will be interesting to watch from the ringside. I believe watching him as he changes will be telling in itself.

Maybe you gotta be a noob to enjoy such pointless things but if you want to watch it's from 41 minutes in a certain channel.

(I didn't want this comment to be easily found from the search menu if they searched themselves lol. I'm not paranoid, I just have the brains of a journalist :grin:)
 
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Regarding Armstrong, whatever you think of him, he’s best placed to spot the signs of when someone is doping. Not only doping, but how to hide it and how to subvert the system. He was running the ultimate programme, every base covered. So when he looks at Pogacar and at his team setup, the people in charge (whom he knows directly) and their motives, he sees what they’re up to, understands it in ways we can’t even imagine. That personal experience and knowledge of having been there and done that. There’s a part of him that admires it, but also a much bigger part of him that’s saying, ‘If I couldn’t get away with it, then why should they? If I couldn’t keep my seven yellow jerseys, then why should he be able to?’ Watch out for Lance. He’s on manoeuvres, looking for any way to get back into the limelight, and UAE will be nervous where he goes with this, and what he might say.
 
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Lance was brought down by his teammates.

His American teammates, to be precise. Hamilton & Landis had no respect for him because they knew how he was winning & wanted the same for themselves. His European teammates meanwhile had come through the system & knew the ground rules. Heras, Beltran, Ekimov etc. would never have behaved the way Landis did. No way. Armstrong was officially done the moment Landis was popped for doping a few days after the 2007 TdF.

The point here is every person in the 'circle of truth' becomes a variable. Like Ayuso for example. Keep an eye on that one because any 'ripples' in the perfectly well oiled machine can have long-term consequences. It's why these teams usually try to spread the love & give teammates some personal glory or a load of cash for their hard work... & silence.
 
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in a few days everything will be in the archive, Olympics, WC, but if something doesn't happen this time it won't happen anymore.

The real Pogacar is the one who pretends not to know what "carbon monoxide" is and then admits to using it the next day.

He's a serial liar with the face of a priest. Armstrong was swimming in lies but this guy is no different and above all he is fresh and not afraid to lie.

www.cyclingweekly.com

Tadej Pogačar: 'There will always be doubts... but cycling is the cleanest sport'

Tour de France champion addresses critics, saying it would be "super stupid" to dope
www.cyclingweekly.com www.cyclingweekly.com

With pancakes, with you don't push 7 w/kg for 40 minutes.

BARDET

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...s-final-tour-de-france-comes-to-emotional-end

Pogacar doesn't struggle, have you seen Bardet's face?

4 years have passed since 2020.

Fleche 1994 - Festina 1998. Epo.

or 2020 was just Val Louron 1991 and we're only in 1995?

Was the EPO already known in 1995? (I'm referring to the fans side)

And EPO CERA? Was it only in 2008?
How did they know they were using CERA?

Don't be fooled by those who say "he defeated a corpse". Hell, Vingegaard made the second half-time performance on Beille.
Evenepoel is at Pantani's level.

Pogacar spent three weeks in Italy wasting energy and he's not breathing PUSHING 7W/KG

Is he clean? 0%.
 
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