Well isn't it there a second test that can be done if the first one is positive?
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Well isn't it there a second test that can be done if the first one is positive?
I don't think so, maybe only if there's enough time left. The whole UAE team was expelled from the Fleche last year due to one positive test: in the following days all of them were negative twice.
In 2020 the whole Polish ski-jumping team was DQ-ed from the 4 Hills Tournament for the same reason. Only due to the political intervention of prime minister they gave them a chance to retest - all were negative (twice or thrice) and one of them won the tournament at the end! Tests are ambiguos in some situations and it happens often.
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A proper Uran vs Vinokourov sprint - Olympics 2012
Want to go that route we can say Ullrich and Klöden vs Vino too.
Ok, long shot here for an answer after 11 years: do you think he was stronger in 2010 than in 2009? I do not actually.
And for me personally: 2014 TdF Nibali vs. Contador vs. Froome. That still hurts. (But I am sure it already got mentioned on various occasions).
Giro 2022 - An answer to whether Jai Hindley can now put a rain jacket on going up a big mountain. Denied by the sunny weather
There’s always next year.Giro 2022 - An answer to whether Jai Hindley can now put a rain jacket on going up a big mountain. Denied by the sunny weather
On top of that I don’t remember him crashing, just being held up by crashes. Which was stage 3 and 8 leading to about a 12 min time loss to Contador as the overall winner and 13 to Schleck. If we gave him that time back he’d move up from 23rd to 20th. Still being Horner, Levi, and Klöden. And he was even allowed to gain time like Horner on that breakaway.
I think you are right. And yes, he wasn't particularly impressive in the break and the last ITT either.
There was more headwind for the riders that started later, which lead to Cavendish beating Klöden so the TT is hard to say. Schleck did better then Armstrong and Klöden who should be better then him while finishing close to Contador, Samu, Vino, and Levi. Menchov on the other hand had a monster TT with the headwind.
I think Armstrong finished as well as he could have that year with maybe some positions higher. Which you can’t scuff at considering his age and how long he had be competing. Maybe if it was a 1 week instead of 3 weeks he would have been closer.
He did crash several times during the 2010 Tour. This picture is from stage 2 to Spa.
He then punctured on the cobbles during stage 3 and on the first mountain stage to Avoriaz he crashed badly at the foot of Col de La Ramaz. From The Guardian that day:
"Even before the race hit the Ramaz Armstrong's day had a nightmare quality. As the field accelerated before the foot of the climb, the Texan touched a pedal on a roundabout, his front tyre came unstuck from the rim and he fell on the right side of the road.
His jersey was ripped, his knee cut but critically his saddle broke, meaning he needed a new bike, and there were no kind souls in the field to stage a go-slow."
He rode the rest of the Tour hurt and reduced (and probably with low morale?).
I don't think there is any reason to believe he would've really followed and challenged Contador and Schleck, but I remember being pretty hyped about his chances after his 2nd place in Tour de Swiss and the strong prologue, so I was a bit sad he crashed several times and wasn't able to give it a go. Up until the crash on stage 2 he did look better than the previous year, but Contador/Schleck was a level above. Someplace between 3 and 6 should've been within reach.
Nibali Vs Contador in the 2014 Tour, with Contador loosing over 2 mins on the cobblestones it was setting itself up to be a really good race. As we knew Contador would attack on every stage that went uphill, like in the 2012 Vuelta.
Armstrong Vs 1998/99 condition Pantani in the 2000 Tour. We got a taste of what it on Mont Ventoux and Corchavel, but that wasn't a fully fit Pantani. Two riders from different generations, with totally different approaches to training and tactics, could have been something special.
Also, Contador Vs Froome in 2014, we never got to see a fully fit Contador Vs Froome. And I feel Contador's 2014 form would have matched a Froome 2013/15 form. But we'll never know....
Armstrong Vs 1998/99 condition Pantani in the 2000 Tour. We got a taste of what it on Mont Ventoux and Corchavel, but that wasn't a fully fit Pantani. Two riders from different generations, with totally different approaches to training and tactics, could have been something special.
Also, Contador Vs Froome in 2014, we never got to see a fully fit Contador Vs Froome. And I feel Contador's 2014 form would have matched a Froome 2013/15 form. But we'll never know....
For me personally, Boonen vs Cancellara since I had access again to live cycling.
Still-good Sagan vs. the current bests.
Still-good Sagan vs. the current bests.
Cancellara vs Boonen 2012 RVV & PR
Ricco vs Contador 2011 Giro
Mosquera vs Cobo and Froome 2011 Vuelta
Nibali vs Contador vs Froome 2014 Tour
Nibali vs Valverde 2018 World Championships
Ricco vs Contador 2011 Giro
Mosquera vs Cobo and Froome 2011 Vuelta
Nibali vs Contador vs Froome 2014 Tour
Nibali vs Valverde 2018 World Championships
Yes!
Add Anton vs Nibali at the 2010 Vuelta and Saunier Duval vs everyone at the 2008 Tour.
And what has probably been mentioned tons is all the Puerto casualties vs each other and Landis/Klöden/Valverde at the 2006 Tour.
There was a lot of Ullrich+Klöden vs Vino in various Tours de France.
Twice, 2001 and 2005 but Klöden was probably helping Ullrich secretly in 2003.There was a lot of Ullrich+Klöden vs Vino in various Tours de France.
Yes. Anton looked great, and it would have been interesting to see whether he would have limited his losses on the ITT and avoid a bad day. ( unlike 2011 Giro, but then again 2010 was the best version of Anton. ( FW, LBL, Castilla y Leon, Romandie ) )Yes!
Add Anton vs Nibali at the 2010 Vuelta and Saunier Duval vs everyone at the 2008 Tour.
And what has probably been mentioned tons is all the Puerto casualties vs each other and Landis/Klöden/Valverde at the 2006 Tour.
There was a lot of Ullrich+Klöden vs Vino in various Tours de France.
And it would have been interesting to see what Ricco and co. would have done in the Alps. Although he wouldn't have gained the amount of time to withstand the long ITT on stage 20 given that he was still 2:30 behind Evans after Pyrenees.
And of course Ullrich vs Basso vs Vino vs Landis vs Valverde 2006 Tour would have been amazing. Riders who were supposed to be domestiques of Valverde, Ullrich and Basso finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th lol.
Oh, forgot one: Festina vs Casagrande vs Pantani and Ullrich 1998 Tour.
As a cycling fan I don't think I've ever had a bigger disappointment than when Anton crashed out in 2010. I think he would have smoked Nibali. The shark wasn't even that strong, he just had a godly Kreuziger to scare everyone from attacking.
About 2006, add Mancebo to your list. Was 4th in two GTs the previous year and had looked good in the Dauphine, which wasn't a given considering what we know of Fuentes' program.
I was looking back at the 2006 Tour which was set up to be an intriguing race with Ullrich and Basso leading list of favourites..... it was an immense pity we didn't get to see this battle. I wonder how it would have played out. I surely think Jan would have won the 2 time trials which were 50km+. IIRC, the Pyrenees were quite light that year also.
Do you guys feel Jan would have held on in the Alps, or would Basso have pulled away??
Do you guys feel Jan would have held on in the Alps, or would Basso have pulled away??
Considering how mental the rest of T-Mobile was, I tend to agree that Ullrich was most likely to prevail. Also, Basso had a tough Giro in his legs while Ullrich just cruised around Italy and smashed the TT. 'Different era', as Sean Kelly would say, but it might still have had an impact on Basso's level.
However, I don't think we should discount Vino and Valverde completely either. Perhaps Valverde would have suffered in the TTs, but he was 5th in the prologue after all and was up there among the specialists in the Vuelta later in the year. Pereiro's form later in the Tour indicated a strong 'peparation' for Caisse d'Epargne too. And Bala was coming to the Tour on the back of his best early season since he turned pro. We could also have been treated to a Contador breakthrough one year early.
Believe me or not - I have been thinking about the battle Ullrich/Basso for TdF 2006 for the last 17 years; two or three times a week, every week. Every week.
Basso was a killer on the bike, back then. But, today, I‘d say that Ullrich would have won this Tour. Basso gave his all to win the Giro 06. Ullrich was so super in TdS. I think Jan Ullrich certainly would have won the Tour 2006.
Jan had the shape, and a super super strong team.
Basso would have been at 95-98% only, after this Giro.
Just my opinion. But I‘m quite sure.
It was a travesty it never happened.
Exactly…
And it left my heart of a cycling fan somehow traumatized.
It was 9.34 a.m. in Strasbourg on Friday morning, June 30, 2006: Frommert announced Ulle would not start. I remember this moment as if it would have been five minutes ago.
Like on this day in 2006, I still ask myself „Why?“… sad
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