Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 15 (Rodez – Carcassonne, 202.5k)

[dutchdescent]

Sagan up for it today

 

[SarahtheDane]

Maybe this is the tour where Jumbo rabofails again and again, but the curse is broken, and Jonas will somehow win anyway.

 

[Rackham]

Don't understand the tactics for Jumbo. WVA is the most important rider for Vingegaard.

Why would you waste any of your precious energy to be a part of a small breakaway? If he is going for the stage win, he could do that without going into a break.

Most likely this stage was promised to him before the TdF (like stage 8 was).

But with not enough manpower in the team to pull back a breakaway, he's gone into one himself to do the job on his own.

 

[Danskebjerge]

What riders ready for racing are being withdrawn?

Magnus Cort. He believes he could have continued, but has been withdrawn because of his team's own tests and covid principles.

I think it should be a doctor's decision whether a rider can continue or not - a test result in itself should not be enough.

I do understand the way things are handled this year - but in the future I think we need to go back to the pre-pandemic principles.

 

[Salvarani]

If Wout would get some freedom it is probably this stage, since it is likely nothing will happen when it comes to GC.

Rest day tomorrow.

Wout is strong enough to do this and then fall back to dom duties.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I guess it's a good thing that the entirety of Jumbo-Visma has about two brain cells to share, considering how strong they are regardless - imagine if they were tactically competent...

 

[Danskebjerge]

There's Jumbo Visma and then there's Van Aert.

 

[Netserk]

If Wout would get some freedom it is probably this stage, since it is likely nothing will happen when it comes to GC.

Rest day tomorrow.

Wout is strong enough to do this and then fall back to dom duties.

He will get full freedom the last three stages as well.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I think it should be a doctor's decision whether a rider can continue or not

How did that one work out for Colbrelli?

 

[SarahtheDane]

Magnus Cort. He believes he could have continued, but has been withdrawn because of his team's own tests and covid principles.

I think it should be a doctor's decision whether a rider can continue or not - a test result in itself should not be enough.

I do understand the way things are handled this year - but in the future I think we need to go back to the pre-pandemic principles.

But he said that's because of his own teams strict protocol. Also he has a fewer. Trust me, I'm bummed out too!

 

[Danskebjerge]

Two Danes could be out today.

 

[topcat]

WoutTF

Jumbo were called boring and clueless for 2 years. Now Wout will be the entertainment and Vinnie will be the dynamite. No comedown.

 

[Potomac]

I want a bigger break

 

[JosefK]

Lucky for Jumbo (so far) that Jonas is freakishly strong.

 

[Salvarani]

He will get full freedom the last three stages as well.

Okay? What is your point.

Those three stages also comes after three stages of mayhem probably and it is the third week.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Morkov at 4 minutes back?

Not sure if Jakobsen is with him but can't see him in the group

 

[Netserk]

Okay? What is your point.

Those three stages also comes after three stages of mayhem probably and it is the third week.

What do you think the point was when I responded to this: "If Wout would get some freedom it is probably this stage"?

 

[Danskebjerge]

How did that one work out for Colbrelli?

Do you know what caused that?

 

[ashhutch1997]

Lance won by five minutes almost every year.

In 2005, he finally realised that maybe it wasn't necessary to deny his teammates all freedom and they won two stages (Hincapie and Savoldelli) from breaks.

Yes, but that was once he had already sealed the race and didn't have someone like Pogi racing against him.
I get your point, but you also have to remember that they went in attacks that were certain to stay away. Wout's attack on stage 6 and today are totally pointless and a total waste of energy ahead of the Pyrenees.

 

[sir fly]

This is not that straightforward controlling at all.
Final 50k's favour strong rouleurs and the sprinters haven't been particularly quick so far uphill.

 

[tobydawq]

Morkov at 4 minutes back?

Not sure if Jakobsen is with him but can't see him in the group

I think Mørkøv is on his own.

 

[Salvarani]

What do you think the point was when I responded to this: "If Wout would get some freedom it is probably this stage"?

I also explained why this stage makes sense for HIM. Maybe not for the team.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Clarke, Cort, Bennett, Laengen, Bouchard, Martin, Barguil, Durbridge?

You aren’t ready for racing if you are contagious. I think a lot of people aren’t grasping that a key difference between Covid and a lot of other viruses is that the R number of the current variants isn’t like flu, it’s like measles. Leave contagious guys in the race, on the busses, in the hotels, at the team briefings, on the basis that they aren’t themselves any sicker than they might be with other things that they would struggle on with and huge swathes of the peloton will get it by Paris. Which, even aside from the health implications for those who get unlucky with their symptoms, will certainly effect the racing a lot more than eight guys getting pulled.

Its not hypercaution about the sick riders themselves. They let Majka continue, at some small risk to his own health, because he wasn’t contagious,

 

[Salvarani]

They are not getting many minutes so could still be more attacks later.

 

[tobydawq]

You aren’t ready for racing if you are contagious. I think a lot of people aren’t grasping that a key difference between Covid and a lot of other viruses is that the R number of the current variants isn’t like flu, it’s like measles. Leave contagious guys in the race, on the busses, in the hotels on the basis that they aren’t themselves any sicker than they might be with other things that they would struggle on with and huge swathes of the peloton will get it by Paris. Which even aside from the health implications for those who get unlucky with their symptoms, will certainly effect the racing a lot more than eight guys getting pulled.

Yeah, I'm never getting even close to agreeing with this, so let's just drop it.