Tour de l'Avenir 2015, August 22 - August 29

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ciranda said:
Bushman said:
its been a long time since we had such a talented roster with Kragh, Mads Pedersen, Würtz and Kamp.

Team of two years ago was at least as good with Cort, Valgren, Sterobo, Asbjørn Kragh, Haugaard and Norman Hansen. Sterobo was a real prospect for stage races but stopped after last season. It was ridiculous that no teams signed Haugaard after that season. He's had injuries since but mostly seems demotivated. Idk what happened to Lasse Norman at Garmin, he was at the same level as van Baarle two years ago. Cort and Valgren on the other hand are doing okay and happily Asbjørn Kragh will go to a good team next year for sure.

Yes that was a great team as well. Cort, Valgren and Normann are all great talents and Haugaard, despite a bad 2015, is quite good as well, I think. Asbjørn Kragh is alright but not as good as his younger brother and I think you are overrating Sterobo quite a bit. I for one didn't rate him too much. He was a good tt'er and on his day a good climber as well. "A real prospect for stage races" is very flattering the least.
 
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Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders

Yeah they all suck, Danish and Dutch riders suck, the DS's are retards bla bla bla
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders

In the past many years young Danish riders suffered from being boring allrounders only capable of winning from a breakaway (Anders Lund, Mads Christensen, Jonas Aaen ect). These guys looks more like the real deal. But there are some truth to your statement I guess.
 
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Baldinger said:
Ryo Hazuki said:
Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders

In the past many years young Danish riders suffered from being boring allrounders only capable of winning from a breakaway (Anders Lund, Mads Christensen, Jonas Aaen ect). These guys looks more like the real deal. But there are some truth to your statement I guess.

There was in the past, yes. But from what I have heard the Danish Cycling Federation has been quite concerned with securing that young riders don't train too much early on and instead gradually increase the amount of training from year to year. In a couple of years we will see if it has had an effect. I dont believe that guys like Cort, Kragh and Mads Pedersen will fade away in the next couple of years.
 
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Baldinger said:
Ryo Hazuki said:
Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders

In the past many years young Danish riders suffered from being boring allrounders only capable of winning from a breakaway (Anders Lund, Mads Christensen, Jonas Aaen ect). These guys looks more like the real deal. But there are some truth to your statement I guess.

Well 2 of the 3 wins here are from a breakaway ;)

It actually makes it more impressive, the Danes have no real climber (well Oleson is a real climber but normally not good enough to win a stage) and no real sprinter in their squad and yet they won 3 stages!
 
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Ruudz0r said:
Baldinger said:
Ryo Hazuki said:
Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders

In the past many years young Danish riders suffered from being boring allrounders only capable of winning from a breakaway (Anders Lund, Mads Christensen, Jonas Aaen ect). These guys looks more like the real deal. But there are some truth to your statement I guess.

Well 2 of the 3 wins here are from a breakaway ;)

It actually makes it more impressive, the Danes have no real climber (well Oleson is a real climber but normally not good enough to win a stage) and no real sprinter in their squad and yet they won 3 stages!

Yes, that is the indeed very impressive. They haven't had a specialist for these stages (well, except for the prologue) but have still managed to win two stages.
 
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DNP-Old said:
José Luis Rodriguez from Chile takes over the yellow jersey!
amazing news. when I saw him in break I was happy. they don't know him but he's a good climber and most of all itt rider.
 
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Bushman said:
Baldinger said:
Ryo Hazuki said:
Broccolidwarf said:
4 stages, danish riders:

1st
2nd
1st
1st

Pretty good :p
and as soon as they turn pro they suck. always the same story. they are treated like pro's at such young age they gain nothing as elite's similar to australian track riders

In the past many years young Danish riders suffered from being boring allrounders only capable of winning from a breakaway (Anders Lund, Mads Christensen, Jonas Aaen ect). These guys looks more like the real deal. But there are some truth to your statement I guess.

There was in the past, yes. But from what I have heard the Danish Cycling Federation has been quite concerned with securing that young riders don't train too much early on and instead gradually increase the amount of training from year to year. In a couple of years we will see if it has had an effect. I dont believe that guys like Cort, Kragh and Mads Pedersen will fade away in the next couple of years.
That's just the opposite of what Kristoff's trainer, Stein Ørn, is doing. He has always said that his philosophy is to have the riders train hard at a young age (too hard to get great results) for the long term benefits, instead of focusing on reaching peak form when they're young.

Interesting that there's two completely opposite perceptions on the matter.