Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[coinneach]

His road bike position is impeccably good & holds it for 5 plus hours. That's why I was surprised at his knee injury last year.

But beautiful to watch him ride. Just so smooth, fluid and efficant.

Pity he is such a knob!

A contributory factor to the knee injury is in the title of the thread; wiggins pushed a lower cadence in '13 to try to make up for what he knew he hadn't done in training.

You may not like his personality, but I think sport is more fun with characters in it

 

[stutue]

The hip to shoulder difference looks the same. You claim above he is on a smaller frame, but if his back is flatter, that requires longer body = longer / larger frame.

Sorry for the confusion, when I was talking about smaller frames I was referringbto road bikes rather than TT. I'll go and find some photos.. You'll see what I mean

 

[stutue]

Here you go..look at that headtube!!

 

[the sceptic]

and so it begins..

 

[Nathan12]

and so it begins..

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/raci...iggins-gains-weight-take-paris-roubaix-118741

The new era is hilarious.

 

[thehog]

A contributory factor to the knee injury is in the title of the thread; wiggins pushed a lower cadence in '13 to try to make up for what he knew he hadn't done in training.

You may not like his personality, but I think sport is more fun with characters in it

It happens you push the leading leg harder for extra power. But agree, that didn't happen here. He just needed to go home.

But still has an excellent position. Think I could achieve it myself but after about 15 minutes my body would retract. It would hurt too much.

He must do a lot of core and stretching work.

Looking at the FDJ picture it may be a one off but he doesn't look so good. Like a Sunday guy who's hungover!

I like his forwardness, I just wish he was more honest. He'd be refreshing then. But can never tell what's just BS and him be raw.

 

[the sceptic]

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/raci...iggins-gains-weight-take-paris-roubaix-118741

The new era is hilarious.

Losing weight and gaining power.. where have I heard that before..

44 seconds in 20 km is just ridiculous. Armstrong esque destruction.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

He only put a minute into Phinney, that's believable for a flat timetrial.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Liggett is painful to listen to.

 

[the sceptic]

He only put a minute into Phinney, that's believable for a flat timetrial.

Should be interesting to see if Ten Dam uploads his SRM file.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Such a gracious, pleased looking stage winner and new race leader.



Good to see Brian "No CoI here" Cookson on his shoulder.

 

[TailWindHome]

He only put a minute into Phinney, that's believable for a flat timetrial.

What time difference would you have expected?

 

[The Hitch]

Wiggins was lucky. It was an easy field. Therefore any margin of victory is justified. 3 seconds, 40 seconds, 6 minutes 19 seconds, doesn't matter, if some rider that wasn't there had been there, he wouldn't have won ergo it wasn't special ergo he is cleans.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

What time difference would you have expected?

Based on the 2012 Olympic road TT, that is in fact the deficit you'd expect.

With the interview Phinney gave, it's a good guess he's motivated and peaking for this race.

Doesn't mean it looks normal. Wiggo complained about someone (Vino) beating him in a Tour TT by 2 minutes - over a 50km distance. So to put 1 minute into someone like Phinney over a 20km distance?

Struggling to believe it. Add in the remarkably quick drop in weight from Paris-Roubaix...

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Imagine if riders signed 1 year contracts only. They'd have consistently good years each and every year.

 

[Jspear]

What time difference would you have expected?

several seconds.

 

[zlev11]

Such a gracious, pleased looking stage winner and new race leader.

couldn't get off that stage fast enough.

 

[thehog]

Bog standard Wiggo. He does 20k ITTs in his sleep. 1 min over Phinney and B-grade field wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

Weight, yes. ITT, no.

 

[King Boonen]

What time difference would you have expected?

Pretty much none?

 

[The Hitch]

Based on the 2012 Olympic road TT, that is in fact the deficit you'd expect.

With the interview Phinney gave, it's a good guess he's motivated and peaking for this race.

Doesn't mean it looks normal. Wiggo complained about someone (Vino) beating him in a Tour TT by 2 minutes - over a 50km distance. So to put 1 minute into someone like Phinney over a 20km distance?

Struggling to believe it. Add in the remarkably quick drop in weight from Paris-Roubaix...

He mentioned only Vino (since Vino tested positive) saying he knew Vino was doping just by how fast he was going (yes Vino able to tt - clear doping, but Wiggins dropping Nibali in the mountains not?).

But anyway the rest of the time he was moaning about how he wanted to win the stage, which was a bit strange if he only thought Vino doped because he came 5th in the tt, so Vino at best robbed him from finishing 4th rather than 5th. So why did he think he had a chance at the stage?

Anyway Sky revisionist history says Vino probably won that tt on merit anyway, since doping doesn't help in tts. Thats how Brailsford knows who is doping. Its the guys who are attacking in the mountains (even if they ride slower than Wiggins and Froome and Porte). The guys who win tts, those are the ones who are cleans

 

[Catwhoorg]

Bog standard Wiggo. He does 20k ITTs in his sleep. 1 min over Phinney and B-grade field wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

Weight, yes. ITT, no.

I am actually agreeing with thehog ?

This ITT victory and margin of was well within his previously proven capabilities.

If he did put on 4 Kg for PR, (from 2012 Tour weight) and is now back at that weight. That is some serious weight loss.


There are a whole host of slimming drugs which aren't banned OOC. So whilst I do think he has had some assistance, I'm not sure its doping in the eye of WADA standards.

 

[the sceptic]

I am actually agreeing with thehog ?

This ITT victory and margin of was well within his previously proven capabilities.

If he did put on 4 Kg for PR, (from 2012 Tour weight) and is now back at that weight. That is some serious weight loss.


There are a whole host of slimming drugs which aren't banned OOC. So whilst I do think he has had some assistance, I'm not sure its doping in the eye of WADA standards.

Just because he has done it before doesnt make it any less alien. Thats like saying "Well Pantani only won the stage by 1 minute and he has done that before, nothing to see here"

It doesnt make sense how a cleans Wiggins can put 2.6s/km into Phinney.

 

[BYOP88]

Just because he has done it before doesnt make it any less alien. Thats like saying "Well Pantani only won the stage by 1 minute and he has done that before, nothing to see here"

It doesnt make sense how a cleans Wiggins can put 2.6s/km into Phinney.

Seems Wiggans made an error when he thought he needed to put weight on to start winning ITT's again. Oh well at least he kept the Pie industry in business over the last winter. Just feel sorry for them now, they'll probably go bust next winter.

 

[King Boonen]

Seems Wiggans made an error when he thought he needed to put weight on to start winning ITT's again. Oh well at least he kept the Pie industry in business over the last winter. Just feel sorry for them now, they'll probably go bust next winter.

Especially as Wigan haven't made it to the play-off finals...

 

[mewmewmew13]

Seems Wiggans made an error when he thought he needed to put weight on to start winning ITT's again. Oh well at least he kept the Pie industry in business over the last winter. Just feel sorry for them now, they'll probably go bust next winter.

I'm confused..why didn't Brailsford straighten wiggins out when he thought added bulk would help for PR...marginal gain should have been enough but not a beer gut.