Junior racing - The stars of the future

[Mayomaniac]

Milesi smashed another ITT in Italy, 28 seconds ahead of his teammate Piganzoli and 1min 4 sec ahead of Ponomar after a 31min long ITT is pretty impressive.
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article...la-terza-volta-sua-anche-la-crono-di-camerata

 

[Walter1234]

I would say 30 seconds in front of the second in a 30 minutes itt is not that much.
Why do you call is smashed?

 

[Mayomaniac]

I would say 30 seconds in front of the second in a 30 minutes itt is not that much.
Why do you call is smashed?

It was just under 24km, so gaining over 1sec/km over the second and over 2.5 over the 3rd is pretty clear. Maybe smashed isn't exactly the right word, but he was clearly the strongest.

 

[DNP-Old]

It's only an early entry, but on first sight I'm missing the Norwegians, Brits and Danes for the European Championships ITT. Therefore we'd be without a few interesting riders like Gustav Wang, Adam Jorgenson, Oskar Johansson, Johannes Staune-Mittet, Per Strand Hagenes, Max Poole, Oscar Nilsson-Julien. Italy would only go with Piras, rather than Milesi and/or Balestra. Other than that, most big names are there in a quick glance. Haven't gone over them in detail, but Brenner ✓, Luhrs ✓, Ayuso ✓, Le Huitouze ✓, Ayuso ✓, Ponomar ✓, Vacek ✓, Bittner ✓, Mikhels ✓, Uijtdebroeks ✓.

 

[RedheadDane]

It's only an early entry, but on first sight I'm missing the Norwegians and Danes on the European Championships, therefore we'd be missing a few interesting riders like Gustav Wang, Oskar Johansson, Johannes Staune-Mittet and Per Strand Hagenes. Italy would only go with Piras, rather than Milesi and/or Balestra. Other than that, most big names are there.

The Danes are going. Though, in order to give them as much opportunity as possible to race before stepping into the U23 ranks only second-year pros has been selected, so no Wang.
Lineup is as follows:

Dennis Lock, Team Mascot WorkWear
Emil Schandorff Iwersen, Team ABC Junior
Kasper Andersen, Team NPV-Carl Ras Roskilde Junior
Nikolaj Mengel, Team ABC Junior
Rasmus Søjberg Pedersen, Give Cykelklub
Sebastian Andreasson, Team ABC Junior

 

[DNP-Old]

The Danes are going. Though, in order to give them as much opportunity as possible to race before stepping into the U23 ranks only second-year pros has been selected, so no Wang.
Lineup is as follows:

Dennis Lock, Team Mascot WorkWear
Emil Schandorff Iwersen, Team ABC Junior
Kasper Andersen, Team NPV-Carl Ras Roskilde Junior
Nikolaj Mengel, Team ABC Junior
Rasmus Søjberg Pedersen, Give Cykelklub
Sebastian Andreasson, Team ABC Junior

Ah, yes, I see now. I like that thought of only sending 2nd years. Though I have since edited my post and was talking about the ITT, which I forgot to specify. It would seem that they are only doing the RR, is that correct? Either way, Norway and the UK are unfortunately missing from either

 

[RedheadDane]

Dunno if they're doing the ITT.

 

[WKA311]

Is there a reason the danes aren't taking Tobias Lund Andresen?

Concerning the german squad: Lührs isn't doing the ITT, Kärsten is.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The Danes are going. Though, in order to give them as much opportunity as possible to race before stepping into the U23 ranks only second-year pros has been selected, so no Wang.
Lineup is as follows:

Dennis Lock, Team Mascot WorkWear

I know this thread about youngsters, but I didn't expect to learn about the team mascot.

 

[LosBrolin]

Is there a reason the danes aren't taking Tobias Lund Andresen?

He's going to race Visegrad 4 Juniors (26.08-28.08)

 

[RedheadDane]

He's going to race Visegrad 4 Juniors (26.08-28.08)

You're saying he doesn't even have the ability to be two places at once? Pffff... I thought he was supposed to be good...

 

[augu0075]

Does anybody have a startlist for visegrad 4 juniors, or at least know the full danish team.
Also does anybody whether denmark only participate in the RR in the EC, or also the ITT, cant see any danes on the ITT startlist

 

[janraaskalt]

Also does anybody whether denmark only participate in the RR in the EC, or also the ITT, cant see any danes on the ITT startlist

They're not on the entry lists, so cannot compete.
See: http://www.uec.ch/en/event/133/2020-uec-road-jun-u23-elite-european-championships

 

[cio93]

Is there any indication the Junior races at the EC might be televised? I'd be happy with just an ambient noise YT stream.

 

[F_Cance]

no chance

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

no chance

They were last year though.
EDIT: sorry, i meant the U23

 

[DNP-Old]

Going through the startlist for tomorrow, I'd say something along the lines of:

• * * * * *: Marco Brenner
• * * * *: Lorenzo Milesi, Cian Uijtdebroeks
• * * *: Eddy Le Huitouze, Juan Ayuso, Mathias Vacek
• * *: Joonas Kuurits, Alec Segaert, Madis Mihkels, Igor Arrieta
• *: Fabio Christen, Andrii Ponomar, Huub Artz, Pavel Bittner, Benjamin Marais

 

[Mayomaniac]

Going through the startlist for tomorrow, I'd say something along the lines of:

• * * * * *: Marco Brenner
• * * * *: Lorenzo Milesi, Cian Uijtdebroeks
• * * *: Eddy Le Huitouze, Juan Ayuso, Mathias Vacek
• * *: Joonas Kuurits, Alec Segaert, Madis Mihkels, Igor Arrieta
• *: Fabio Christen, Andrii Ponomar, Huub Artz, Pavel Bittner, Benjamin Marais

Is Mathis Vacek that good of a TTer? I know that he packs a decent sprint, he's a lot faster than his older brother, but is he on that level as a TTer?

 

[DNP-Old]

Is Mathis Vacek that good of a TTer? I know that he packs a decent sprint, he's a lot faster than his older brother, but is he on that level as a TTer?

He is definitely decent enough, been killing the Italian scene as of late. It's so hard to say though, because we don't have a lot of references for this year (read: we have none). He was 13th on a relatively flat (albeit short) ITT in the Peace Race last year, very respectable. It does seem like he has taken it to the next level, and the course should be in his favour, though that goes for a lot of kids tomorrow.

 

[WKA311]

This will be a interesting first reference point for Mihkels on competetive international level.

 

[Mayomaniac]

He is definitely decent enough, been killing the Italian scene as of late. It's so hard to say though, because we don't have a lot of references for this year (read: we have none). He was 13th on a relatively flat (albeit short) ITT in the Peace Race last year, very respectable. It does seem like he has taken it to the next level, and the course should be in his favour, though that goes for a lot of kids tomorrow.

Yes, no idea if it's too hard for Milesi, but he doesn't look bigger than a guy like Ponomar.

 

[DNP-Old]

Yes, no idea if it's too hard for Milesi, but he doesn't look bigger than a guy like Ponomar.

Milesi isn't too far off in comparison to to Piccolo and Tiberi in terms of weight and build. He should be fine. My real 'concern' for this course is Le Huitouze. He is a rather big boy, coming in with 1m84 and 71kg. Very talented though, so I won't write him off.

 

[Walter1234]

A first result saying Vacek won before Brenner.

https://firstcycling.com/m/race.php?r=884&y=2020

 

[RedheadDane]

So... meanwhile in Hungary; this happened!

 

[Walter1234]

So... meanwhile in Hungary; this happened!

really? there is a Nation cup race during the Eurpean CC?