Landis letter re drug use in cycling

[danjo007]

are you his poster boy?

 

[D Avoid]

True - but it was a recreational drug (Ecstasy) that he took and not a PED - except for bogeying the night away in a German nightclub - he wasn't racing at the time as he was out injured.

I find myself having to pick your nose on this one, iz boogy or iz dinner(bogey) you talk of?

 

[eleven]

Why in the world would Landis come forward with all of this...yet still stick by his story about the 2006 TdF test being wrong? That's just, well - that's insane.

 

[RTMcFadden]

Wow, this story just made the local newcast (WABC - Channel 7, NYC).

 

[Roland Rat]

i fail to see how that is so funny you moron.
its people like you who would rather see the sport of cycling go down the tubes, than work through it, and get some respect back in the sport.

do you actually ride a bike? im guessing you do, and are not very good at it.
it might explain your attitude round here.

My attitude around here? What attitude would that be then? And why so personal, pumpkin?

I would be delighted if Radioshack pulled the plug from Bruyneel and effectively pulled him out of the sport, yes. Because there ain't a hope in hell any sponsors will go near Bruyneel and his merry band of men ever again.

 

[Jamsque]

So what's the verdict in general then? Do I have to read the whole thread?

The verdict? Last panel:

 

[danjo007]

Why in the world would Landis come forward with all of this...yet still stick by his story about the 2006 TdF test being wrong? That's just, well - that's insane.

cause landis is a "never was"

 

[R.0.t.O]

A guy from cyclingnews was just interviewed about the story on bbc radio. Amazingly he and the interviewer both avoided evening mentioning Armstrong.

 

[Animal]

“All this proves is that he’s a liar: he has stood up in court and denied these things,” McQuaid said. “He’s got absolutely no credibility. I’m annoyed at something like this” coming out during the Tour of California, he added.

What an ar-rsehole!

Flandis was just doing what worked for everyone else who got caught!

What does patty boy expect those accused to do? Roll over? They hardly ever do that. McQuaid is a disgrace.

 

[eleven]

So what's the verdict in general then? Do I have to read the whole thread?

1. Lots of cyclists doped.
2. Armstrong doped.
3. Landis doped. Except, of course, when Landis failed a drug test in 2006 - then, he was clean
4. Rinse, repeat.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Why in the world would Landis come forward with all of this...yet still stick by his story about the 2006 TdF test being wrong? That's just, well - that's insane.

Is that what he is saying? Wow. That's a blow to his credibility. It's easy to paint this as sour grapes.

Eurosport have just gone live at the Giro. I wonder if they will mention this.

 

[trompe le monde]

Why in the world would Landis come forward with all of this...yet still stick by his story about the 2006 TdF test being wrong? That's just, well - that's insane.

No, not really. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread Ben Johnson admitted that he was on PEDs - I think it was during the Dubin Inquiry - but not the stanozolol they found in his urine sample at the Seoul Olympics.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

1. Lots of cyclists doped.
2. Armstrong doped.
3. Landis doped. Except, of course, when Landis failed a drug test in 2006 - then, he was clean
4. Rinse, repeat.

I wouldn't be surprised if he retracts all this in a few days. It has the whiff of someone on the edge.

He's claims on blood transfusions have come instuck already.

It's a desperate plea for attention.

 

[Roland Rat]

He's claims on blood transfusions have come instuck already.

Have they? How... ?

 

[Animal]

I just hope that, as posted upthread, the FBI are onto this and won't let it go. Serious fraud has been committed. An idol has feet of clay.

 

[eleven]

A guy from cyclingnews was just interviewed about the story on bbc radio. Amazingly he and the interviewer both avoided evening mentioning Armstrong.

I guess, but it just looks incredibly, amazingly foolish. Hell, even if the testosterone test WAS wrong, might as well just claim it was right to clear the air.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I find myself having to pick your nose on this one, iz boogy or iz dinner(bogey) you talk of?

Doh..... bogey.

Shows you the last time I hit the tiles like Jan.

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

I wouldn't be surprised if he retracts all this in a few days. It has the whiff of someone on the edge.

He's claims on blood transfusions have come instuck already.

It's a desperate plea for attention.

desperate enough for law enforcement and the international media to take a serious interest.

There's only one thing the media like more than a heroic fairy tale, and that's bringing down a former hero....

watch and enjoy....

he who lives by the sword, Lance....

 

[frenchfry]

I often wonder, when I click on a cycling site, if there will some breaking news that will blow open the doping culture.

Today, there it was.

Of course we will have to wait and see just how this all works out, but I have absolutely no doubt that what Floyd relates is the truth. And apparently well documented truth, who would have figured that Floyd kept a diary? The detail will go a long way towards thwarting the PR attack that will soon be launched by Public Strategies and the rest of the Armstrong war machine.

Thanks Floyd and good luck.

I have often been hard on Floyd, and he deserved it as his entire misinformation campaign was pretty pathetic. I always thought that he was capable of this kind of act though, and am happy that he was.

From what I have seen, what he says is totally coherent.

Lance may regret his comeback, which up to now has been a total success financially but some like me thought it could open him up to further scrutiny. No matter what the outcome, his image will take a hit.

McQuaid is proving to be a world class pr*ck, I hope he pays big time.

I am disappointed in Michael Barry, I always hoped he wasn't let on the tour team because he wouldn't get with the program.

I passed through Girona by train a few weeks ago, think I will go take a shower now.

 

[barn yard]

Eurosport have just gone live at the Giro. I wonder if they will mention this.

being discussed on eurosport right now

lets see if there is some bias

 

[eleven]

No, not really. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread Ben Johnson admitted that he was on PEDs - I think it was during the Dubin Inquiry - but not the stanozolol they found in his urine sample at the Seoul Olympics.

Right, and how'd that work out for Ben Johnson? It's patently absurd.

Do you think Floyd was clean in the 2006 test? Me neither. Knowing he was doping for the four years prior just confirms the 2006 test.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

David Harmon on Eurosport is talking about it. He seems to be contemptuous of Landis.

That seems to be the general view. Big scepticism.

 

[issoisso]

being discussed on eurosport right now

lets see if there is some bias

I'm not home to watch portuguese eurosport, but I am 100% sure the moron "technical" commentator will do what he does every single time Armstrong and doping are connected: he'll distort facts to defend Armstrong.

 

[Ripper]

Forget the sanctions - they might never come.

But it was media pressure that ruined both Ullrich & Pantanai because they were pulled from events Giro 99 & Tour'06.

Lance will not get to ride this Tour - somewhere there is a crack, probably Garmin or BMC will withdraw riders, forcing TRS to do likewise - in the media thats guilty.

You're right about Betsy - but all she ever wanted to do was tell the truth and move on - of course LA painted her as a 'hater', but she successfully sued 'The Guardian' when they published a piece where Lance called her a liar. But the media in the US didn't cover that.

With Floyd this will be a different event.

I think Garmin can come through this by simply noting how clean they are now, that Z-Man is clean now, how it is possible to win clean now, etc. They will focus on the now, and might stress how when Z-Man rode for Saxo cycling was a different world.

BMC are in a much different boat. Current team owners and managers implicated in actively taking part in/funding doping, and lying about it; additional risk in that they are not a pro-tour team, so they rely on an invite for le Tour ... I can see BMC suffering the most 'collateral' damage on this one.

TRS - WTF are they going to do? This might just get super-uber-fugly-ugly.

Some of the sad things for me is this might hammer the living sh*t out of cycling in general (it's not like sponsors need this level of disincentive), and I think Landis is going to be ripped apart (already looks like the latter has started) ... I'm not at all sure this will end well for him.

 

[Parrot23]

desperate enough for law enforcement and the international media to take a serious interest.

If the former take an interest, or the Balco investigator(s), whatever, are involved, maybe this can have the teeth to stick.