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Paris - Roubaix 2024, one day monument, April 7

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FYI, Arenberg has been done in the other direction before. The discussion about the safety of entering this section downhill has been going on for decades.
It's just not easy to keep the 'flow' of the cobble sections if doing Arenberg the other way around (in short, it's a detour with more asphalt in between), so for now, they keep the S-->N direction and hope for the best.

But the reality is that many favourites have seen their race lost at Arenberg (Boonen), or worse, have crashed and had to abandon the race (last year, the winner of 2022 Dylan van Baarle), and more extreme, some have had career-threatening injuries (Johan Museeuw).

So it's not that strange (I would call it respectful) to consider measurements in order to try and improve the safety of riders. It's a big thrill to see them going into the forest at 50-68(*)K/hr, but it a recipe for chaos (and some might even call it hell) and there is a fine balance between riders providing us entertainment vs. the rider's safety situation.

(*) Ganna almost got to 70K/hr while chasing the favourites' group in 2022...!
 
Just gather the goats who have been grazing the cobbles before the entrance of the forest. The riders would slow down to check them out. Problem solved.



Seriously, I think a chicane is a good idea and I don't see the problem with introducing it four days in advance. It's not like suddenly removing or adding a climb to a stage.
 
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Just gather the goats who have been grazing the cobbles before the entrance of the forest. The riders would slow down to check them out. Problem solved.



Seriously, I think a chicane is a good idea and I don't see the problem with introducing it four days in advance. It's not like suddenly removing or adding a climb to a stage.
If MvdP is informed and made sure he understands the change, then it's okay I guess.
 
I'll admit, this is crazy, and mostly a joke.

Maybe add more cobbles on the run-in to Arenberg, but make it so they get gradually worse.
In 2022, the group of favourites with WvA and MvdP entered Arenberg with a small lead on the peloton, after they forced it on the previous secteur (Haveluy). So yes, riders do have a choice to try and go up the road. There aren't any worse secteurs nearby Arenberg than Haveluy, so that base is already covered.
 
I don't really understand the negative perception towards the possible introduction of a chicane before Arenberg.

Yes it probably doesn't prevent crashes from happening now before or in the chicane but I think it does reduce the risk for serious injuries because the crashes won't happen at 60km/h on a two metre wide cobbled sector.

I also think it might make the Arenberg sector even harder because they will hit it at lower speed.

Imo, it's at least worth a try and afterwards it can be evaluated if it had any positive effects.
 
I think we should have them enter the forest at a completely different point and have them make their way to the other side on foot. Just seems more fair imo.

I wouldn't mind a bit of bike orienteering in some races. It could shake up a few boring flat stages if the breakaway suddenly discovered a shorter route than the peloton.
 
Made a separate women's thread here:
 
FYI, Arenberg has been done in the other direction before. The discussion about the safety of entering this section downhill has been going on for decades.
It's just not easy to keep the 'flow' of the cobble sections if doing Arenberg the other way around (in short, it's a detour with more asphalt in between), so for now, they keep the S-->N direction and hope for the best.

But the reality is that many favourites have seen their race lost at Arenberg (Boonen), or worse, have crashed and had to abandon the race (last year, the winner of 2022 Dylan van Baarle), and more extreme, some have had career-threatening injuries (Johan Museeuw).

So it's not that strange (I would call it respectful) to consider measurements in order to try and improve the safety of riders. It's a big thrill to see them going into the forest at 50-68(*)K/hr, but it a recipe for chaos (and some might even call it hell) and there is a fine balance between riders providing us entertainment vs. the rider's safety situation.
Was it downhill just before Arenberg earlier or also slightly downhill along the cobbled section? If the there is uphill along the section going the other way, it should provide even bigger chance to create gaps in Arenberg (save from crashes).
 
Ok, last night I had a dream where Alexander Kristoff won this race from the breakaway. It was very vivid actually and MVDP was solo and catching him fast but not fast enough. MVDP also was involved in a huge crash earlier and that held him back and let Kristoff win, but a win is a win and it's going to happen! I just saw the future
nah, mate. MvP doesn't crash, he is all luck after his Flanders-2019 crash...
 
I think we should have them enter the forest at a completely different point and have them make their way to the other side on foot. Just seems more fair imo.

On the subject of crazy ideas, why not get them to race over the nearby slag heaps in Raismes? That would thin out the peloton and coming from Raismes they would enter Arenberg via the right-hand turn.