Teams & Riders Sepp Kuss is the next Sepp Kuss thread

[CyclistAbi]

Which lines are that? I think you're over interpretating Regardless of who's leading at the Tour I'd say Visma is pressed for results in most races with the year they're having.

'Jonas is the guy that can win the race' - Visma still hopeful for Vingegaard as plan A for the Tour de France

Visma-Lease a Bike DS unwilling to put pressure on Jorgenson and Kuss for the Tour de France with confidence still in Vingegaard

www.cyclingnews.com

This one for example.

 

[Potomac]

Kuss is sandbagging for the Dauphine.

 

[jmdirt]

TT today!
Working for MJ now!

 

[JosefK]

TT today!
Working for MJ now!

I think he'd much rather be a workhorse domestique than a GC guy.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think he'd much rather be a workhorse domestique than a GC guy.

Agreed. It seems to me that Kuss has the ultimate domestique mentality - he doesn't like the pressure of being a leader.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Agreed. It seems to me that Kuss has the ultimate domestique mentality - he doesn't like the pressure of being a leader.

Klöden syndrome

 

[Nick2413]

Agreed. It seems to me that Kuss has the ultimate domestique mentality - he doesn't like the pressure of being a leader.

His career is about as golden as imaginable for a domestique. The perfect blend of in and out of the spotlight.

 

[Sciatic]

Agreed. It seems to me that Kuss has the ultimate domestique mentality - he doesn't like the pressure of being a leader.

Well, he probably is aware enough to recognize that he’s not a big GT or 1-week race leader with a TT like his. Especially in an era when the other top GC guys are awesome TT’ers, he’s not going to be anywhere close.

 

[Extinction]

Well, he probably is aware enough to recognize that he’s not a big GT or 1-week race leader with a TT like his. Especially in an era when the other top GC guys are awesome TT’ers, he’s not going to be anywhere close.

He's, more or less, the modern version of Andy Hampsten.

 

[Potomac]

Klöden syndrome

I didn't know Sepp was getting prison quality tatoos.

 

[stonerider]

Matteo is a better GC guy than Sep. Sep just doesn't have the mentality for it year in and year out.

 

[Sciatic]

Matteo is a better GC guy than Sep. Sep just doesn't have the mentality for it year in and year out.

I understand why that can be a tempting notion, it’s also kind of a put down. It’s not like he melted under pressure when thrust into the lead at the Vuelta. So perhaps it’s that he’s really smart, self-aware and knows what his strengths and weaknesses are and chooses to maximize those.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I understand why that can be a tempting notion, it’s also kind of a put down. It’s not like he melted under pressure when thrust into the lead at the Vuelta. So perhaps it’s that he’s really smart, self-aware and knows what his strengths and weaknesses are and chooses to maximize those.

It’s hard to be put under pressure when the two best riders are your own teammates though. Jumbo neutralized everything and the others let them have their pissing contest like Pog at the Giro. In order to get a true reading if he could handle it Roglic and Vingegaard would have to be on other teams, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t rise to the occasion upon getting the lead. Since he absolutely did and showed it in the TT.

 

[AmRacer]

It’s hard to be put under pressure when the two best riders are your own teammates though. Jumbo neutralized everything and the others let them have their pissing contest like Pog at the Giro. In order to get a true reading if he could handle it Roglic and Vingegaard would have to be on other teams, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t rise to the occasion upon getting the lead. Since he absolutely did and showed it in the TT.

He needs 2 GT's to get in top shape
😁

 

[Sciatic]

It’s hard to be put under pressure when the two best riders are your own teammates though. Jumbo neutralized everything and the others let them have their pissing contest like Pog at the Giro. In order to get a true reading if he could handle it Roglic and Vingegaard would have to be on other teams, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t rise to the occasion upon getting the lead. Since he absolutely did and showed it in the TT.

I didn’t say it was the same kind of pressure as going into a GT as the leader and winning that way. The sparse evidence we have for how he would handle being under the bright lights with tons of media attention—as well as intra-team tension—was that Vuelta. Not much to extrapolate from that singular instance. But at least it’s something we could see, not an assumption about his psyche’ as pro.

 

[Rackham]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1803065316160737751

View: https://x.com/CyclingUpToDat3/status/1803065316160737751


Interesting viewpoint. I think he's wrong tbh, i.e. he gained (with bonus seconds as well) 3:02 on Rog & Vinge via a breakaway on stage 6.

That was the main gift, aka the 'gift' his team gave him. A literal head start in GC over his teammates.

 

[Taxus4a]

Yes, they dropped him at the Angliru, were better on the ITT....of course you pay something a break, but 3 minutes it is too much. He could have been podium, no more than 3.

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1803065316160737751

View: https://x.com/CyclingUpToDat3/status/1803065316160737751


Interesting viewpoint. I think he's wrong tbh, i.e. he gained (with bonus seconds as well) 3:02 on Rog & Vinge via a breakaway on stage 6.

That was the main gift, aka the 'gift' his team gave him. A literal head start in GC over his teammates.

It's not an interesting viewpoint it's basically verifiably wrong. Either he's just talking *** or lying to himself.

 

[Bolder]

It's not an interesting viewpoint it's basically verifiably wrong. Either he's just talking *** or lying to himself.

That kind of talk is dangerous, because he has to back it up with at least a GT podium.

If I were Kuss I'd be very humble and low-key about the Vuelta.

 

[Red Rick]

That kind of talk is dangerous, because he has to back it up with at least a GT podium.

If I were Kuss I'd be very humble and low-key about the Vuelta.

I guess it makes some sense for him to be defensive about it. But I also think this comes across as more insecure than admitting he likely wouldn't have.

 

[Unchained]

Yes, they dropped him at the Angliru, were better on the ITT....of course you pay something a break, but 3 minutes it is too much. He could have been podium, no more than 3.

Remco is Santa Claus giving the gift, and Santa's elves were given specific instructions by the head of the gift division at the North Pole..Mr plougge

 

[Rackham]

It's not an interesting viewpoint it's basically verifiably wrong. Either he's just talking *** or lying to himself.

Since the Vuelta he's been doing way more interviews than ever before & he's been saying stuff which really does raise eyebrows (like repeatedly saying he wants to win the Tour de France).

I guess one or two delusional remarks in the press go unnoticed but when it starts to pile up, it's difficult to ignore.

There's some strong Froomey post-2019 vibes going on with Kuss at the moment, IMO.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There's some strong Froomey post-2019 vibes going on with Kuss at the moment, IMO.

Froomey's form as well. Maybe he's heading to Israel Premier Tech for highly paid "retirement".

 

[CyclistAbi]

Better to focus on the future. That is GC Kuss was created at Vuelta 2023 and i see no reason on why he wouldn't co-lead the Tour 2024 team, considering all the circumstances involved.

 

[Froome]

Better to focus on the future. That is GC Kuss was created at Vuelta 2023 and i see no reason on why he wouldn't co-lead the Tour 2024 team, considering all the circumstances involved.

On that case, Hindley should also be co leader in the Tour.