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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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Something you have to look something up. In the Slovenian ITT, he wasn't even the best of his team. He was beaten by Penko and Groselj. What a generational talent!
1) Do you have a link and 2) How old was he?

Just tried looking up the Slovenian ITT titles - I found the below in Wiki. Is this wrong because it does not validate your claim?

And as such a young age it is wrong to draw conclusions or extrapolate.

 
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Something you have to look something up. In the Slovenian ITT, he wasn't even the best of his team. He was beaten by Penko and Groselj. What a generational talent!
And what? This does not change that fact that he had tons of results before he joined UAE. This is subjective, but I can stomatch his results way more than donkeys getting good after age 27.
 
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Mou, is that you? You're trying to divert attention to Vingegaard and you're free to do so in another topic.
Pogacar a generational talent? Right. After he joined UAE in 2019.
1) You should work on your reading comprehension, and also not quote things selectively to try and make your point. Your fanboi-ism is raging through
2) my point is that both UAE and Visma are at levels that have simply been unseen and are not reasonable.
 
1) Do you have a link and 2) How old was he?

Just tried looking up the Slovenian ITT titles - I found the below in Wiki. Is this wrong because it does not validate your claim?

And as such a young age it is wrong to draw conclusions or extrapolate.

He finished 40-20 seconds behind the guys mentioned in 2017.

Penko was a good time trialist at this time for his age. Riding against Affini, being close to beating him, among other riders that has gone pro later.

2018 he had improved and beat them. He was one minute behind Tratnik, who won.

He was two years younger than them.
 
its most likely theyre on the same stuff and just pushing amd pushing the quantity.

Also pretty likely individual response is a big factor

But why did they push the quantity only this year? If it was so easy Pogacar would've killed Vingo during the two previous Tours. Maybe a better technology of "consumption" was found or there is completely new fuel X (aka porridge, according to Teddy).
 
But why did they push the quantity only this year? If it was so easy Pogacar would've killed Vingo during the two previous Tours. Maybe a better technology of "consumption" was found or there is a completely new fuel X (aka porridge, according to Teddy).
Nah, I think it's just an arms race ... they probably decided to mix in EPO microdosing with the CO therapy which masks it, and got even better results.
 
One theory, Vingegaard’s sudden rise a couple years ago coincided with some new discovery, maybe beyond what UAE had at the time. Then this year UAE/Pogacar got on it and he’s back in the lead. And they’re both pushing it to new levels progressively.

Vingegaard had a much more Froomelike development than Pogacar so he may have already had access to something greater the last couple years.

Also wondering if Kuss’s bizarre MIA season this year has anything to do with it.
 
1) You should work on your reading comprehension, and also not quote things selectively to try and make your point. Your fanboi-ism is raging through
2) my point is that both UAE and Visma are at levels that have simply been unseen and are not reasonable.
I'm not a fan of TVL or Vingegaard.
So they're both at unseen levels? Is a member of TVL winning everything on all terrain all season? I don't think so.
 
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One theory, Vingegaard’s sudden rise a couple years ago coincided with some new discovery, maybe beyond what UAE had at the time. Then this year UAE/Pogacar got on it and he’s back in the lead. And they’re both pushing it to new levels progressively.

Vingegaard had a much more Froomelike development than Pogacar so he may have already had access to something greater the last couple years.

Also wondering if Kuss’s bizarre MIA season this year has anything to do with it.
Maybe they are back on the lead, or Visma could not aplly perfectly these new doping programme in they're best riders, especially Vingegaard because of the back luck they had.
 
Everyone is doped and you guys still watch it all? Hmmm yeah sure. I get you you guys here dislike Pogacar I see the names I remember some quotes haha and you gather here and tell yourself everyone is doped and you feel better from it I get it.

Let me tell you guy what it really is, its called evolution or do you guys believe the nokia people used from 1997 is better than todays Iphone? They even use cognetive AI in different areas within the sport now its so many aspect and areas knowledge just is not comperable, litterally everything so naturally their better this is simply only evolution nothing else. The way they alter their training based on recovery and how much more they can do its all out there.. Mindboggling that you guys think the world stands still. Or maybe not everyone thinks it but just gather here with few fellow minded to feel better I get it and dont take this the wrong way, you all are here cause your fav rider whoever it is isnt winning well most of you anyway. Thats just my guess and wether or not most of you are ready to admit that or not thats mostly it.

Now also the best climbing performance of all time. Pogacar is the best cyclist of all time and have been for a long time its nothing new just enjoy that your able to witness the best that has ever raced the bike is my tip your lucky afterall. In 100 years they wil speak of him in ways its hard to believe, you have the chance to witness him. Your lucky the end.

Remember life is great guys and enjoy it. Best intention do with that as you want cheers