Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Raest]

Idk what Armstrong's weight was but I remember him saying that he was doing 500W for 30min on Col de la Madonne pre Tour (I guess any Tour he won).

I seem to remember that Ed Coyle measured it at that value too, at UT, but the Tour value is more impressive as he would have been lighter and more tired.

Speaking about Lance, I’d like to know how he feels about Pogacar. I think him, Hincapie and Bryuneel are either laughing their a…s off or are seething with rage

 

[E_F_]

Speaking about Lance, I’d like to know how he feels about Pogacar. I think him, Hincapie and Bryuneel are either laughing their a…s off or are seething

Well, they have a youtube channel..!

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Surely it would still be less expensive for you to break your own and replace it.

True. I'll just have RR send me the TV he is about to break and only then can I break my own. (He probably gets a very heavy discount on TV sets seeing as he breaks them so often.)

 

[topcat]

Honestly, it likely is.

Cycling has anti-doping controls in and out of competition, surprise tests, bio passport, no-needle policy... What other sport has all of this?

It's also a sport the deals with much less money then other top sports, that don't have the same level of scrutiny and control. So if there is more money and less control, why not use PEDs if no one is looking?

I wouldn't say it's the cleanest, I'd just say it's less dirty.

Cycling might be cleaner than weightlifting. And that's about it.

 

[snipeheem]

Cycling might be cleaner than weightlifting. And that's about it.

And swimming,Athletics

 

[noob]

True. I'll just have RR send me the TV he is about to break then. (He probably has a very heavy discount on TV sets seeing as he breaks them so often.)

breaking a TV does sound more fun than watching Pog take the Olympics. But if you do it make sure to post pics so we can enjoy it here together
Smashing things is so fun!

 

[topcat]

True. I'll just have RR send me the TV he is about to break then. (He probably has a very heavy discount on TV sets seeing as he breaks them so often.)

Put the orr on RR's tv. I want video of you breaking the tv as Pog does the Sieg Heil as he wins.

 

[Raest]

Well, they have a youtube channel..!

I know… duuuh

 

[Penninepeddler]

Honestly, it likely is.

Cycling has anti-doping controls in and out of competition, surprise tests, bio passport, no-needle policy... What other sport has all of this?

It's also a sport the deals with much less money then other top sports, that don't have the same level of scrutiny and control. So if there is more money and less control, why not use PEDs if no one is looking?

I wouldn't say it's the cleanest, I'd just say it's less dirty.

Tbf basically all Olympic sport have in and out of competition testing and surprise tests... and a lot have bio passport now. And the Olympics have been needle free since 2016 and in turn quite a few other federations for Olympic sports have similar policies... though it does vary by nation outside of the Olympics and prep for Olympics.

Heck, back in 2007-2008 I was a junior player on an Olympic programme and I had to give my whereabouts for a 2 hour window once a week for anti-doping, and surprise testing could happen at basically any training session or game.

 

[noob]

I know… duuuh

Ah you mean you want to know how they feel behind the scenes and not on camera? Get a pet into the studio, or a weird autistic that can't read between the lines. Both are likely to pick up what the guys actually feel, not what they try to project

 

[Extinction]

I seem to remember that Ed Coyle measured it at that value too, at UT, but the Tour value is more impressive as he would have been lighter and more tired.

Speaking about Lance, I’d like to know how he feels about Pogacar. I think him, Hincapie and Bryuneel are either laughing their a…s off or are seething with rage

He claims to like him, but secretly despises him. Anyone who can make Lance look like he pailed in comparison can not receive sincere admiration from the Texan.

 

[snipeheem]

He claims to like him, but secretly despises him. Anyone who can make Lance look like he pailed in comparison can not receive sincere admiration from the Texan.

u can tell he dont like him at all .

 

[noob]

He claims to like him, but secretly despises him. Anyone who can make Lance look like he pailed in comparison can not receive sincere admiration from the Texan.

So he's like Pog; likes the boys as long as he tops them.

 

[noob]

No one can tell me Pog doesn't take pleasure in humilating Jonas. I don't see the same pleasure from Jonas when he has won against Pog.

Pog shows not so well hidden traits of sadism on the road.

 

[zlev11]

u can tell he dont like him at all .

why, because he dared to criticize him for something? should he just be jacking him off like the rest of the cycling media does? i dont understand this new phenomenon where if someone is even the slightest bit critical they are labeled a hater. it's ridiculous. the point of being a journalist (and i'm using this term very loosely here wrt to Lance) is to objectively call it like you see it. wrong or right, he thought Pogacar should tone it down and stop winning so much, for his own good! he never once said Pogacar was selfish or a bad guy for wanting to win. he said what he said as advice to Pogacar, speaking from his own experience of dominating the Tour. i cant believe im defending Lance Armstrong, but i dont think he gives a *** what or how many races Pogacar wins. he knows he'll never win 7 Tours in a row anyway.

 

[snipeheem]

why, because he dared to criticize him for something? should he just be jacking him off like the rest of the cycling media does? i dont understand this new phenomenon where if someone is even the slightest bit critical they are labeled a hater. it's ridiculous. the point of being a journalist (and i'm using this term very loosely here wrt to Lance) is to objectively call it like you see it. wrong or right, he thought Pogacar should tone it down and stop winning so much, for his own good! he never once said Pogacar was selfish or a bad guy for wanting to win. he said what he said as advice to Pogacar, speaking from his own experience of dominating the Tour. i cant believe im defending Lance Armstrong, but i dont think he gives a *** what or how many races Pogacar wins. he knows he'll never win 7 Tours in a row anyway.

Bro, he literally accuse him of doping , like wtf?

 

[zlev11]

Bro, he literally accuse him of doping , like wtf?

no he didn't. and if he did, why can't he express his opinion? it would be quite refreshing to actually hear someone question his ridiculous performances.

 

[snipeheem]

no he didn't. and if he did, why can't he express his opinion? it would be quite refreshing to actually hear someone question his ridiculous performances.

Some people question and he already answers ,its all because porridge, better fueling , and dope is not worth because it can ruin you health and cycling is just a fun

 

[noob]

no he didn't. and if he did, why can't he express his opinion? it would be quite refreshing to actually hear someone question his ridiculous performances.

If this was one of the few instances when Lance wasn't manipulative I'd agree. But generally when someone is as manipulative as Lance they know what they do but make it seem like they don't. So even if he didn't he did. But I'd not say that was a bad thing. In this regard I am pro Lance lol.

 

[snipeheem]

If this was one of the few instances when Lance wasn't manipulative I'd agree. But generally when someone is as manipulative as Lance they know what they do but make it seem like they don't. So even if he didn't he did. But I'd not say that was a bad thing. In this regard I am pro Lance lol.

Ofc he did

 

[zlev11]

Ofc he did

i watched every single second of his podcast this tour and he never once insinuated he was doping lol

 

[snipeheem]

i watched every single second of his podcast this tour and he never once insinuated he was doping lol

Dont make them question you? Its political game? Pogacar just made the biggest mistake of his life when he attack for isola stage, come on he insinuated a lot between the lines, look at the comments after isola stage

 

[zlev11]

Dont make them question you? Its political game? Pogacar just made the biggest mistake of his life when he attack for isola stage, come on he insinuated a lot between the lines, look at the comments after isola stage

i know nuance is hard but that's not calling him a doper, that's sage advice from someone who was in Pogacar's exact position once. what Lance doesn't realize is that that advice doesn't apply anymore because the cycling press is just "fans with typewriters" more than ever before.

 

[snipeheem]

i know nuance is hard but that's not calling him a doper, that's sage advice from someone who was in Pogacar's exact position once.

Maybe u right , in my opinion he kinda insinuate some stuff but maybe i am overreacting

 

[zlev11]

If this was one of the few instances when Lance wasn't manipulative I'd agree. But generally when someone is as manipulative as Lance they know what they do but make it seem like they don't. So even if he didn't he did. But I'd not say that was a bad thing. In this regard I am pro Lance lol.

i do agree that Lance is probably the last person i would want to see making doping accusations (unless he actually knew something concrete) but i truly dont think he cares about anyones success anymore. he is riding that same train now with his podcast and his media company.