Quintana??

[Eagle]

Only the 3rd time it's been climbed, will be interesting to see his w/kg, after such a hard day racing still very impressive

 

[Saint Unix]

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Only the 3rd time it's been climbed, will be interesting to see his w/kg, after such a hard day racing still very impressive

Been done three times in Dauphine too.

 

[Benotti69]

ammattipyöräily ‏

@ammattipyoraily 11 minutes ago View translation

Tour de France — La Toussuire (17.67 km) | #TDF2015

2006 | Carlos Sastre 44:52
2012 | Thibaut Pinot 45:05
2015 | Nairo Quintana 44:30

 

[SeriousSam]

I'm waiting for some brand new accounts insisting that Quintana is clean because of rounder wheels or oval chain rings. Or perhaps Quintana did inferior w/kg than Froome today but won anyway.

Where are they?

 

[FroomehasneverdopedX]

who cares?

he makes it interesting, team sky train does not.

 

[Lyon]

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I'm waiting for some brand new accounts insisting that Quintana is clean because of rounder wheels or oval chain rings. Or perhaps Quintana did inferior w/kg than Froome today but won anyway.

Where are they?

Not grimacing for two weeks gives you an extra 50 watts in the third week.

 

[meat puppet]

why, quintana is toooo-tally cleans of course. it is just astonishing that he has risen to stardom from the cycling hinterlands, what with no proper training and guidance.

also remember that it was froome who was dropped, which in sky logic simply means that he put out more power/kg than quintana did.

 

[harryh]

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Only the 3rd time it's been climbed, will be interesting to see his w/kg, after such a hard day racing still very impressive

Obviously well over 6W/kg: http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/39/Toussuire

 

[Lyon]

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why, quintana is toooo-tally cleans of course. it is just astonishing that he has risen to stardom from the cycling hinterlands, what with no proper training and guidance.

also remember that it was froome who was dropped, which in sky logic simply means that he put out more power/kg than quintana did.

Now that the other teams have learnt how to lower their watts as well, Sky is in trouble.

 

[Eagle]

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Only the 3rd time it's been climbed, will be interesting to see his w/kg, after such a hard day racing still very impressive

Obviously well over 6W/kg: http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/39/Toussuire

Wow, crazy performance

 

[carton]

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it is just astonishing that he has risen to stardom from the cycling hinterlands, what with no proper training and guidance.

LOLZ. Yeah, Colombian climber on a Spanish team. Do they even have bikes there? Or hills?

 

[carton]

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Only the 3rd time it's been climbed, will be interesting to see his w/kg, after such a hard day racing still very impressive

Obviously well over 6W/kg: http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/39/Toussuire

Wow, crazy performance

A little disagreement here. Gesink and Pinot's PMs should help. https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/624617169079263235

 

[Lyon]

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it is just astonishing that he has risen to stardom from the cycling hinterlands, what with no proper training and guidance.

LOLZ. Yeah, Colombian climber on a Spanish team. Do they even have bikes there? Or hills?

Hills doesn't help when you can only afford to go downhill.

 

[Eagle]

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Only the 3rd time it's been climbed, will be interesting to see his w/kg, after such a hard day racing still very impressive

Obviously well over 6W/kg: http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/39/Toussuire

Wow, crazy performance

A little disagreement here. Gesink and Pinot's PMs should help. https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/624617169079263235

Might have been a tailwind vs headwind, still impressive considering the way the stage was ridden

 

[meat puppet]

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Obviously well over 6W/kg: http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/39/Toussuire

Wow, crazy performance

A little disagreement here. Gesink and Pinot's PMs should help. https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/624617169079263235

I think vetooo and chronoswatts use a different formula in watts estimates. This should explain the discrepancy. Vetooo also had Wiggins 2012 44:58 La Toussuire around 5,6w/kg if my memory serves, which would be quite consistent with a 5,7w/kg figure he proposed.

Which is indeed very fast, given how the stage was raced and that we are deep into the third week of the TDF.

 

[harryh]

Long live science

 

[bigcog]

http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/19/

Alpe D'huez

37 Nairo Quintana Colombie Tour de France 2013 (#18) 39'50 6.25 w/kg 426

Why hasn't this ET performance been mentioned ? lol

 

[Escarabajo]

Quintana:

Around 70% drafting. Assume some slight headwind:

5.58 Watts / Kg
5.66 Watts/ Kg (Ferrari's formula)

 

[Escarabajo]

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http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/19/

Alpe D'huez

37 Nairo Quintana Colombie Tour de France 2013 (#18) 39'50 6.25 w/kg 426

Why hasn't this ET performance been mentioned ? lol

I have 6 watts / kg for that climb. Nowhere near the 6.25 that you have. It is the drafting a size that made the big difference. You have to account for that!!!

 

[bigcog]

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http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/19/

Alpe D'huez

37 Nairo Quintana Colombie Tour de France 2013 (#18) 39'50 6.25 w/kg 426

Why hasn't this ET performance been mentioned ? lol

I have 6 watts / kg for that climb. Nowhere near the 6.25 that you have. It is the drafting a size that made the big difference. You have to account for that!!!

It's not me, it's one of the relied on sources for this site

 

[Escarabajo]

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http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/19/

Alpe D'huez

37 Nairo Quintana Colombie Tour de France 2013 (#18) 39'50 6.25 w/kg 426

Why hasn't this ET performance been mentioned ? lol

I have 6 watts / kg for that climb. Nowhere near the 6.25 that you have. It is the drafting a size that made the big difference. You have to account for that!!!

It's not me, it's one of the relied on sources for this site

I get the 6.25 w/kg without the drafting. But you have to take that into account!

 

[SeriousSam]

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Quintana:

Around 70% drafting. Assume some slight headwind:

5.58 Watts / Kg
5.66 Watts/ Kg (Ferrari's formula)

-6% oval chain rings.
Also, doesn't he weigh 70kg?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

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http://www.chronoswatts.com/watts/19/

Alpe D'huez

37 Nairo Quintana Colombie Tour de France 2013 (#18) 39'50 6.25 w/kg 426

Why hasn't this ET performance been mentioned ? lol

6.25

 

[roundabout]

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Quintana:

Around 70% drafting. Assume some slight headwind:

5.58 Watts / Kg
5.66 Watts/ Kg (Ferrari's formula)

Toussuire is quite an irregular climb for the purposes of using VAM.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Quintana:

Around 70% drafting. Assume some slight headwind:

5.58 Watts / Kg
5.66 Watts/ Kg (Ferrari's formula)

Toussuire is quite an irregular climb for the purposes of using VAM.

Let's wait for the power meter readings for calibration.