Teams & Riders Fabio Aru discussion thread

[burning]

I would cheer for him if he kept on riding. But saying that he didnt know he had a mechanical, he is just hilarious like rest of the gc man, it is going to be a parade for Sky.

 

[sir fly]

The thing with Aru's move is, it could've been better executed.
If he's had just stepped up at the front and upped the pace instead of jumped away, he could've elegantly dropped Froome forcing him to chase without easing off at the front.

 

[bassano]

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What the heck Fabio? Pathetic looser.

Pathetic is that you still doing stupid comments here

 

[Põhja Konn]

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By sitting up he showed he is still a boy among men. Going through with this attack would have been a clear statement to Froome - if you want to win this Tour, you have to beat me first. He evidently was not ready to make that statement.

I think he was ready, but he didn't want to pull the others along as it became clear they weren't going to take pulls.

Had he carried on the attack, the others would have started to cooperate sooner rather than later. Keeping Froome at bay would have been in everybody's interest.

 

[del1962]

Too many riders didn't want to co-operate with his attack for it to suceed.

Anyway why did Fuglsang and Aru co-operate to bring Bardet back?

 

[May0maniac]

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Too many riders didn't want to co-operate with his attack for it to suceed.

Anyway why did Fuglsang and Aru co-operate to bring Bardet back?

I think it was more about putting time into Dan Martin and the other gc riders behind them, like Yates and Quintana.
That said, the last km was a tactical mess.

 

[kingjr]

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By sitting up he showed he is still a boy among men. Going through with this attack would have been a clear statement to Froome - if you want to win this Tour, you have to beat me first. He evidently was not ready to make that statement.

I think he was ready, but he didn't want to pull the others along as it became clear they weren't going to take pulls.

Had he carried on the attack, the others would have started to cooperate sooner rather than later. Keeping Froome at bay would have been in everybody's interest.

And made him a few enemies among the other riders, rightly or wrongly.

 

[BigMac]

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By sitting up he showed he is still a boy among men. Going through with this attack would have been a clear statement to Froome - if you want to win this Tour, you have to beat me first. He evidently was not ready to make that statement.

I think he was ready, but he didn't want to pull the others along as it became clear they weren't going to take pulls.

Had he carried on the attack, the others would have started to cooperate sooner rather than later. Keeping Froome at bay would have been in everybody's interest.

I'm not sure they would. They were clearly displeased to see Aru attack, they were not going to pull.

A pity. Hope Aru tries again. All coins in, take every opportunity.

 

[DNP-Old]

Disappointed in him. Should've gone on with his attack.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

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Aru to Italian TV: "I didn't know Froome had had a mechanical. When I found out, I stopped."

Really Aru? Really?

Yep. He should have just owned it. Now it looks even worse. A shame.

 

[movingtarget]

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Aru to Italian TV: "I didn't know Froome had had a mechanical. When I found out, I stopped."

Really Aru? Really?

Yep. He should have just owned it. Now it looks even worse. A shame.

They both should have owned it. Froome definitely saw him attack.

 

[SafeBet]

He wasn't as strong as I thought he would be. Hope he's not fading already.

 

[Kokoso]

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What the heck Fabio? Pathetic looser.

Pathetic is that you still doing stupid comments here

I was emotional.

But yeah, he knew Froome had mechanical and shouldn't attack. Don't you agree?

Edit: have you ever done some stupid comment, or anything stupid? No, never I guess. Whyt exactly was stupid about that comment?

 

[glassmoon]

I would have 0 issues with him attacking (and keep going).
Him saying he didn't see/know is totally another thing though - pure BS.
Aru, you're adult man, just own your ***.
Props to him for trying and I hope he'll keep trying further on.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Aru 4 the win (GC)

 

[bassano]

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What the heck Fabio? Pathetic looser.

Pathetic is that you still doing stupid comments here

I was emotional.

But yeah, he knew Froome had mechanical and shouldn't attack. Don't you agree?

Edit: have you ever done some stupid comment, or anything stupid? No, never I guess. Whyt exactly was stupid about that comment?

No I do not agree, mechanical in part of race like that when race is decided is not any reason to wait or not to attack, it is part of the race and noone would wait if anyone else have same problem, so why to wait for Froome or not attack him
and like every second of my comments is kind of stupid but I am at least not trying to insult riders like that

 

[Leinster]

I can't see why Froome should be immune from attack on the final climb of the day because he chose to go back to the team car for a shifting problem. If the bike is rideable, suck it up and ride. If anything, we should be annoyed at Martin, Porte and others for not also pushing. What next, the yellow jersey calls for a smoke break at the Telegraphe summit "so we can all have a clear head for the Galibier"?

 

[AussieBob]

It is a bike race. Aru should have continued with the attack. Nothing in the rules saying you can't. The excuse that it is a breach of etiquette is feeble. Put it in the rules in that case. If it was an ITT or TTT the competing riders wouldn't slow down nor the officials deduct time from those completing the course. Some riders act like school boys. Didn't Uran have a mechanical as well or does everyone need to stop for the yellow jersey only? Aru should just have said a rider was in trouble and he took advantage of it. I also recall Cadel having a mechanical at the Vuelta one year which put him out of the running for the GC. I would be interested in knowing who came up with the idea not to attack the leader if there is a mechanical issue.

 

[Vasilis]

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I can't see why Froome should be immune from attack on the final climb of the day because he chose to go back to the team car for a shifting problem. If the bike is rideable, suck it up and ride. If anything, we should be annoyed at Martin, Porte and others for not also pushing. What next, the yellow jersey calls for a smoke break at the Telegraphe summit "so we can all have a clear head for the Galibier"?

Well Froome wasn't the one who called on the others to wait for him. I think that if Astana had just continued to set a pace, there wouldn't be an issue, at least not for me, but they tried to take direct advantage of someone else's misfortune, which is obviously allowed, but still a little low in my opinion.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

It's more likely that he didn't continue with with his attack because he was basically in the red already - had he been good he would have been out of sight. He subsequently couldn't go with the others near the top and then couldn't even beat Bardet in the sprint after Fuglsang had set everything up for him

 

[staubsauger]

In Italy it's still common sometimes to blatantly lie in someone's face (with a smile) when the other person knows it's a lie anyway and goes like "Oh yeah, of course." It's a cultural thing and rewarded as kinda funny. People from other countries never understand that because for them this always seems dishonest.

Matteo & Co. might correct me if I'm wrong. But that's how I learned it.

Dunno whether Aru lied or really lied in that case.

 

[Bolder]

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I can't see why Froome should be immune from attack on the final climb of the day because he chose to go back to the team car for a shifting problem. If the bike is rideable, suck it up and ride. If anything, we should be annoyed at Martin, Porte and others for not also pushing. What next, the yellow jersey calls for a smoke break at the Telegraphe summit "so we can all have a clear head for the Galibier"?

I'm going back and forth on this. I wanted (even voted for!) Aru to win the whole thing, but that he didn't know Froome had a mechanical strains credulity. However, I've watched the moment a few times and it does appear from certain angles that Aru was winding up and may have passed Froome when he raised his arm. Also, what was the nature of this mysterious "mechanical"? Was it just a missed shift, because in that case, attack away!

So...mostly I think it was bad optics, and tbh -- as you say -- the other Anglophone riders sticking up for Froome, for whatever reason. (I suspect perhaps the tempting prospect of a future Sky contract!)

And, to be fair, he did stop, and if you've planned an attack and abandon unexpectedly, that will mess with your head a bit. So...all in all, I would say, "no harm, no foul" and let's move on.

 

[Angliru]

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I can't see why Froome should be immune from attack on the final climb of the day because he chose to go back to the team car for a shifting problem. If the bike is rideable, suck it up and ride. If anything, we should be annoyed at Martin, Porte and others for not also pushing. What next, the yellow jersey calls for a smoke break at the Telegraphe summit "so we can all have a clear head for the Galibier"?

Well Froome wasn't the one who called on the others to wait for him. I think that if Astana had just continued to set a pace, there wouldn't be an issue, at least not for me, but they tried to take direct advantage of someone else's misfortune, which is obviously allowed, but still a little low in my opinion.

We definitely would have heard about it from Sky and Froome in the media after that stage. The problem is that Sky preaches one thing and practices another. They are not adverse to taking advantage of an opponent's misfortune and then claiming the race was on. The same happens to them, Sky and some of their fans want to complain about a lack of sportsmanship.

 

[toolittle]

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Aru said : “We reached an agreement with Froome, that’s true. We were not so much working to chase down Bardet as we were also to gain time on the guys chasing behind.”

Who is Aru the big big big big big treat to cause him giving up Yellow Chance?

1 Christopher Froome (GBr) Team Sky 38:26:28
2 Fabio Aru (Ita) Astana Pro Team 0:00:18
3 Romain Bardet (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale 0:00:51
4 Rigoberto Uran (Col) Cannondale-Drapac 0:00:55
5 Jakob Fuglsang (Den) Astana Pro Team 0:01:37
6 Daniel Martin (Irl) Quick-Step Floors 0:01:44
7 Simon Yates (GBr) Orica-Scott 0:02:02
8 Nairo Quintana (Col) Movistar Team 0:02:13
9 Mikel Landa (Spa) Team Sky 0:03:06
10 George Bennett (NZl) Team LottoNl-Jumbo 0:03:53
11 Louis Meintjes (RSA) UAE Team Emirates 0:05:00
12 Alberto Contador (Spa) Trek-Segafredo 0:05:15

 

[Frihed89]

The GC standings tell me that this tour will become even more boring until the next to last stage.